Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

Tbh 32 large caliber is better than 16 LC and 32 Small Caliber in my book, wish it was changed to either 72 Small Caliber or stayed as it is.

Im not happy with this change, 6 missiles loadout was more than enough, with these changes Rafale became Frankenstein plane and will make first F4 addition completely meaningless.

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I dont think we will ever see JAS39 or EFT countermeasures but that is because the French rely on different systems. I also dont think there are any countermeasure pods for the Rafale.

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Why would it be useless when the engine stops burning?

no no, I’m having an issue when I try to fire the SBU54, it just says seeker:on and doesn’t fire.

Meteor and/or MICA-IR + AASM 1000

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Oh I see rail my stupid brain thought trail

Those additions came with F4.2 iirc.

I really dont mind we have plenty of other un historical changes. At least this was tested and 100% possible if the Frensh airforce decided to safe some money. We can just say we have the Dassault Rafale instead of the French airforce Rafale.

(Not talking about the HMD because that might get changed)

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I think F4.2 would be MICA-NG

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Honestly its more what you end up against, large caliber are alot more useful against gate width missiles in my experience, and total count more useful for suspension, but thats just me.

I don’t know of any, but I also don’t know if the pods the m4k in game uses are compatible or not, I know it has spirale built in so its at least somewhat modern, whether she works with it or not, who knows.

It will most likely not gonna change due to SCORPION HMD was tested on F3 models as well.

Smin said this information arrived to them yesterday so im not expecthing any change in that regard.

Woundt call it more then enough. In my opinion it was definitely lacking and this would have gotten even worse with F18 and SU-30 (or double aim-120 pylon for EFT). The only reason why I do well in the Rafale is because I am not a idiot + EFT radar is still bugged.

I think 14.0 is now relatively balanced. The worst 14.0 is probably F15E but its not underperforming.

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F15E is not worst by any means, its just require different playstyle than Rafale or EFT.

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So with the CM count change now being 16 large and 32 small, that would mean we have 2x8 60mm buckets and 2x16 40mm buckets (of which the 40mm are not ‘smart’), plus the Spirale ICDs; is this still technically accurate? Or should the 40mm buckets be 2x18 and give us 36 small caliber? I see both numbers (64 or 72 small CM max) being thrown around for small caliber.

I am not saying its bad it definitely better then the aircraft at 13.7 and therfore should be 14.0. I just think the Rafale (with these new changes) is slightly better over all (exept in long range BVR) and the Typhoon (aftet they fix the radar)is definitely better the F15E.

Well F15 family can always recieve AESA radar to compete in high altitude BVR but i must say current radar is more than enough to duel with EFT on high altitude.

I think it would be cool if you could pick if you want the 40mm or the 60mm. 72 (or 64) small or 32 large. That way everyone would be happy because you could bring your preferred countermeasures.

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Highly disagree, were increasingly moving to BVR, and as it stands as long as both are in range, whoever has more, either wins or forces the other to back off into a bad position with no ARH to force you away. Not having 8 ARH puts you in a disadvantage, especially in a 1v1. Just look at the gripen with only 4 Derby’s, theres little they can do with their better FM when the f15e can stay in orbit and deplete them of their ARH. Count and range IS the meta. 6 MICAs with perfect performance still fall short of 120 total range, and with 6, you’ll be out and they can still keep firing forcing your hand. 8x MICAs with IRL perf would have a perfectly healthy niche having the slight advantage at medium range and strong advantage at short range.

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Again not saying its bad just think EFT is better and Rafale slightly better (6 missiles Rafale was definitely worse IMO).

AASM 1000 was added with F4.1

MICA IR was there since F2 standard

Meteor came in service with the current F3R we are supposed to have in game

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