Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

They want realism for buffs but never for nerfs, idk why you’re suprised at this point.

If you give me mica that beats amraam A in BVR, take your helmet off however you want. But i want mach 5 Fox3 with extremely good high alt high speed drag and kinematics. AKA - what mica is irl. Not that joke of a stone.

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what is there to nerf on the Rafale?

Nothing… it does decently well only because its opposition is braindead and Typhoons radar got absolutely butchered to the ground.

I dont think answering that at this point is a good idea considering past experiences on this thread. Feel free to read previous messagea.

I can almost guarantee you, every single sane person who is not sucker for defyn and that stupid off bore playing in planes supposed to never get close to each other, will take correctly done mica over helmet.

last time i paid attention the general consensus was the Rafale needs anything but nerfs

There are some changes to the rafale in the 2.43.0.20. I am not sure what these mean, but there is a smoooll chance they are giving it 8 MICAs

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There will indeed me some changes in this area. Stay tuned.

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If that was true, the fact thats literally what I advocated for woulsnt have gotten me like 200+ hate comments and arguments over the last week.

Most ppl here want both, many also want the extra 2 missiles as well.

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@MythicPi If we get another 2 micas, you are gonna lose your mind but yeah, at that point, it should be called F4.1, in future should get mod Mica-NG and then 4.2 as next plane with Meteors.
If it happens ofc.

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Me when I lie on the internet :

Good thing that actual BVR combat never happen in Air RB and that AMRAAM from long range are stupid easy to defeat.
Come the f*ck on man, you got a K/D way above 2 on the 5F (unlike some other whiner in this thread, at least I can see you know how to fly) and you’re set for the same thing on the Rafale. It’s capable enough already. Get over the fact you’re not a F15E and never will be. It needs to be played differently, and that’s a GOOD thing. Thanks God not every plane play the same, it’s already hard enough to find fun in this freaking game.

Btw, i’m not opposed to getting 2 more MICA. I’d probably play it 7 MICA 1 Magic if we can get it. But the plane IS strong already.

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Not really gonna lose my mind lol, itd be stupid, but maybe theyre just changing the name to F4.1, since that would be what they have modelled if they add the 2 extra Micas at this point

I want either extra rocks + helmet so i can atleast use them at closer ranges or 6 REALLY correctly perfroming micas.
But having HMD and 6 missiles that are glorified BFM missiles aint really great. Well, for someone who likes to lick ground and play that notch - off bore - notch gameplay, it is.
Iam more of an BVR guy in case of modern stuff so i want actual BVR missiles if iam supposed to be limited in number. Hell, idc about helmet if they are good.

No, the things people ask here is to either have the mica fixed which won’t happen since gaijin would need to have new servers/big optimization to them and with how old this inside joke is in the community it doesn’t seem it will change, or the semi historical loadout of 8 mica which from what i understand the authority in France that take care of the integration/test of missiles approved it even if the army did not use it because of money.

I LOVE LICKING THE GROUND

Funny that i currently play it in Rafale. And had bunch of 60km kills on EF.

The issue is, Rafale is my beloved 4,5 gen and i want to use it as intended - long range with good sensor suite.
And KD? Its like that because people at top tier barely know how to use stuff at altitude. They rush into your missiles.

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its kinda like how top tier ground is. you wanted to use your purpose built for long range combat vehicle? who would want to do that, here have a knife fight

Wait, we might actually lose current helmet for the micas.