no hmd iff like scorpion? seems like a jhmcs alternative
JHMCS does have IFF, but that depends on plane
at least in game none of the jhmcs get iff, if only french rafales get the scorpion and the british/indian one doesn’t, french ones will definitely be superior
Thats mostly cuz gaijin seems to think HMD IFF works using the magic of friendship and unicorn farts imparted by the relic of god known as the Scorpion HMD, instead of what it actually is; a TDL, which gaijin categorically refuses to admit exists in-game, and as such refuses to add it to any other HMD, leaving the Rafale as the only fighter jet ingame with TDL based IFF for both air and ground units, giving it a massive informational advantage over everyone else.
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I mean the only iff hmds in game should be I think striker 2 on later euro fighters, and jhmcs. Pretty sure striker one doesn’t get iff, only striker 2, as that’s a feature listed specifically for striker 2. As for jhmcs idk enough about that. Btw, did the rafale ever use other hmds other than scorpion in service? If I recall correctly this rafale we have in game technically shouldn’t have scorpion, it should have either no hmd or another hmd (I forgot if scorpion was tested on f3r, pretty sure they’re only on 4.1 rafales)
Striker 1 has IFF as well… but this is the Rafale topic.
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Not in french service, they didnt even have an HMD on their Rafales until very recently with the F4.1 variants afaik.
When will you stop, just wondering.
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Scorpion was tested on what was basically an F3R test bed for the F4. Visibly it’s enough for gaijin
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I think it’s still relevant when discussing the Rafale; especially for sim players since having essentially 50% of the RB spotting system is a huge advantage.
The argument for adding the HMD to the Rafale was that it was tested at one point and that in order for a plane to be competitive at top tier that it would need HMD. .
However the F2A has been added to the game without HMD which suggests that HMD is not considered necessary to be competitive. At the same time I believe it was tested with an HMD at some point so the same rationale for adding HMD exists.
The other issue is that IFF function has not been added to the other HMDs that have the same ability. It’s been 6+ months since Rafale was added and no other fighter has had its HMD brought up to par with Rafale. In the same 6 months the Rafale has received nothing but performance improvements; some of them erroneously like the turn rate buff that was only recently reversed.
This disparity is actually a big deal in Air SB. The Rafale is so much better than everything else that it only takes 4 or so Rafale players spread out over the available lobbies to kill the entire game mode on a weekend.
this would also be super helpful in sim for other planes with datalink mfds, like flanker, im sure other planes get datalink mfds too. would be cool to see datalink modeled in game in general
The problem area comes when other aircraft were trialed with HMD but don’t have HMD like the F2A. It needs to be 1 rule for all and so far it’s not.
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Afaik Japanese bug reporters aren’t lazy or missinformed/lacking infos on the planes they cherish so if they haven’t put reports up it must mean HMD never got trialed and if they put reports up its up to Gaijin to add it ASAP.
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I’ve been following along for a bit on the F-2 thread, it hasn’t been credibly stated that the HMD was tested on the F-2A, nor do I recall a report on this.
Anyway, let’s bring it back to topic.
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I don’t know what’s going on, I’d need to ask a jap main, but that’s not for this thread. So just needs to make sure there is standardisation when it comes to “trialed” features
Not sure how many times it has already been said (or certain people still spread misinformation on YT…); there is no evidence that HMDS has ever been tested on the F-2 - we know it was proposed at some point to be tested, but thats about it.
Other HMD systems in-game lacking IFF also has nothing to do with Rafale, I don’t see why certain people still have to blame smth this way.
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Ngl i agree i dunno why people blame Rafale. In comparison the M2K thread was always relatively calm but since the Rafale is very good the thread about it is almost a constant battlefield. Poor Rafale, victim of it’s power :(
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Just a small update on the researching side of things. The Rafale C F3 in-game has its weight based on a brochure that doesn’t seem to be specific and was “estimated” which naturally called for more investigation.
A primary source has been come across detailing the empty weight of the Rafale C F3 based on a very credible government document. It specifically states the variant of the aircraft (which we have in-game) as Rafale C F3 and the number comes down to the tens of kg giving a more detailed figure than the brochure used by the developers. It seems that based on the source which need some more clarification from other sources, the Rafale is a bit too heavy and should weigh a minimum of 200kg less. We should hopefully have more information on this soon.
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I have one question why does mica wobble like it is having a panic attack plus confusion at the same time ?
all fox 3s do that no?