Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

As a J-11 fan, that is pretty based

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yes

Can you make best looking plane battlefield thread?

good idea
ngl

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Whaat?

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@quartas121

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Yeah we delt with that further up


10 years

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Are these r-74s?

yep

Guys, please explain what formula is used to calculate weapon debuffs. Because the Su-30 has ~2 times less weapon debuffs than the Rafale.

I hope it’s clear what I mean, because I’m writing through a translator.
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You’re comparing a guided bomb to air to air missiles , of course guided bombs will have more of a negative impact than air to air missiles

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no that is clearly russian bias

What kind, and are they unfinished in that picture?

I needed to compare the same weight and resistance. But then how to explain it?
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that is not possible because they have completly different weapons with different drag and different mass

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Same weight and same parasite drag will favour the Su-30SM due to its higher thrust, making an increase in weight and drag less significant.

Thats why thr Su-30SM is less affected by its suspended ordinance than the Rafale with its relatively weak engines.

The thing is that lighter and less drag missiles have a greater impact on the aircraft. I guess I just don’t understand something

AIM-120 -4.1 climb rate
(147kg)

Mica-EM -8.6 climb rate
(112kg)

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That’s probably because the aircraft you check the aim120 on is an f15 (I guess?), which is far heavier than the Rafale.
With a bigger plane (and thus more powerful engines for a similar TWR), a hard point of the same weight will have more impact on the lighter aircraft, meaning the jet performances will degrade faster. The Rafale is a light airframe, and thus the MICA have a bigger impact than the AIM 120, that while bigger, are still « smaller » in ratio when installed on the f15

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This explains a lot. Thank you very much.
Дякую.

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