Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

they gotta make room for the f22 some day

Im curious if the F-22 will get the Rafale treatment and get a free HMD actually

gotta get people to grind it somehow
sweet premium money

It will be the variant from 2025. No way the Americans will allow it to come without every single possible feature

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It recently got an HMD operationally on a Hawaii squadron. Tested Scorpion HMD (same as Rafale funny enough) earlier

But me personally, I think it’ll be a 2005 one

Also; the “22G” are based on what the in-game HUD shows, however that should not be taken as any serious reference. Use WTRI etc for more accurate Data.

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In-game HUD G indicator is slightly off on the Rafale, its still pulling over 20G’s and surviving.

EFT’s wing comes off pretty much the moment it goes above 18G:

18G is where the EFT’s wing should break if gaijin is using the correct 12G max load.

20G+ is well beyond the 16.5G the Rafale should break at in-game on the other hand.

Sorry for the colours being blown out, I had to reinstall my drivers and somethings not right with the colour of recordings atm for some reason.

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Anyone else sometimes unable to fire in tws randomly? It seems when I tws lock someone for too long I am unable to turn my MICA on, and the radar stops showing missile range info. Wondering if this is a Rafale only bug.

In all fairness, IMO Typhoon is underperforming, because I’d think it’s also pretty ridicolous to see Rafale accelerate much faster at altitude than Typhoon.

It’s like, if Rafale can overperform at high altitude, then Typhoon could’ve done that too.

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In every single respect the Typhoon should outperform the Rafale in terms of flight performance, at hte moment the Typhoon barely keeps up.

Eurofighter had it for 3 months. Let’s wait another 3 months

I mean that’s still Gaijin’s horrible balancing at play.
Not to mention the bright idea of adding something that should’ve been in the game since the F-15C now (J-11B) and pretending that it was an actual 14.0 instead of adding the J-10B. :|

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Oh my god it’s been almost 100 messages of « the rafale structural is overperforming, the EFT is underperforming ». Can we switch to another topic or is the whining going to last 100 more messages ?
Do a report or talk about something else, it’s annoying to see the thread clogs so much every other day.

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If people are going to engage in the topic it will generare replies.
Rafale is perfect in game which is why no one hear is complaining about it.

Rafale is over performing as proved in the data provided, however it’s up to Gaijin if they want to implement it.

When the same message is repeated by some over and over again with just a few words changed here and there it’s just annoying

Yeah let’s just say that and ignore the few dozen reports made on it

And yet it’s mostly accurate according to the data provided.

The issue is that the EFT is significantly underperforming in its G load.
Everyone knows it. However, this is a Rafale thread. The « Rafale is overperofring in g load while EFT is underperforming » discussion only originates from the fact that the EFT is underperforming. Because if you look at other planes than just those 2, the rafale is in the margin of error of the Gripen, F16s, f15s… as mentioned by someone above
So it should be discussed in the EFT thread. If you have an issue with the rafale overperforming in this area, make a goddamn report. And give values, instead of « according to the data provided », because, no, the data were definitely not provided, since there is not a report on the max structural limit of the Rafale.

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Then was there a report made based on Typhoons structural limit? Or did Gaijin see fit to change it because Typhoon was proving to be too good at high altitude?

Yes there are reports for soft systems that arent in game or modelled correctly nothing is fundamentally wrong with Rafales flight model, Radar and avionics.

Then report it.
Or go to the EFT thread, since it’s an issue related to the EFT. My point is that this is the rafale thread. All I see is that the majority of the last dozen of messages were from EFT mains mainly complaining about the EFT, mostly repeating the same arguments over and over again, when no one actually disagreed with them.
I don’t have any issue when the the discussion isn’t stale (comparing IRL performance of both planes, in game balancing…), but it has been turning around the same point with no new significant for a long while now, and it results in the clogging of the thread.

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Is there a source for the Rafael F3R which indicates the maximum G limits for a given fuel weight/loadout?

The dassault website says -3.2g/+9g but doesn’t give any additional detail.

If we assume this is at 100% internal fuel only, then that would give a 1.5x structural limit of -4.8g/+13.5g

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imo the Rafale is the best looking one, it’s all made in smooth curves, while the Typhoon looks chunky

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