Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

Yeah fair enough. One that arrives it can be compared

Little basic summery;

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You clearly missed the part where he said:

Which is what I was pointing out is largely irrelevant, since the EFT isnt meant to be flown at low speeds, and really, being low speed in general is just not a good place to be in any jets, so saying something like “well it still flies the same in speed regimes you never wanna be in” is pointless.

Also, “medium speeds” are irrelevant to the points “you arent flying at high speeds in a 1c fight” and the above “low speed” comment.

Anyways, a quick comment regarding the comparison between the EFT and Rafales G-onset has turned into discussing the EFT nerf again. If you wanna keep discussing the EFT nerf and flight model specifically, lets do it in the EFT thread.

his another point is irrelevant. however he is also wrong

i don’t care about the eft nerf and i don’t discuss it, when people go into binaries regarding dogfightning and speeds they should be corrected
both
if we have 2 people imagining and agreeing speeds to be only low/high and nothing else then the conversation is already flawed

Always thought it was kinda funny ppl referred to the J-10 as a “Temu Eurofighter” when its much more of an “Alibaba Rafale” considering the characteristics of the jet.

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Looks more similar to the EF than rafale that’s why

However in reality the “original” is IAI LAVI from israel


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And only the bottom one looks any good :P

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Anyway, to return to the main point of the conversation.

Rafale seems to majorily overperforming in terms of structrual limits and the Typhoon seems to be massively underperforming

let the eurofighter shine, let the rafale shine, whos gonna shine next?

Intake-wise sure, but the actual layout of the jet is a close coupled canard with a TWR closer to 1 and a wingsweep closer to the Rafales.

If the Rafale needs more than 16.5G of structural limit, then I really want to know what you are doing. That should be more than enough. 22+ is just insane.

It is also how the wing blends into the fuelsalage and the general shape of the fuelsalage

i’m sure it won’t shine the same when the next aircraft’s time to shine comes


china, when is your turn?

ofcourse gaijin knows this and does it on purpose. people will grind different aircraft when they all get to be in a spot where they appear the greatest

Chinas been getting kinda screwed update after update tbh.

Payment for how absurdly broken the J-7E is at 11.0 I guess.

good i dont play them then
im sure rafale will have a day when it also gets nerfed and we will have something else to complain about

I seriously doubt gaijins favourite plane is ever being nerfed anymore than it already is.

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they gotta make room for the f22 some day

Im curious if the F-22 will get the Rafale treatment and get a free HMD actually

gotta get people to grind it somehow
sweet premium money