F-111A introduced 1967
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Im fairly sure the AAR-34 wasn’t retrofitted, it was on there when it entered service afaik
Which really makes the EFT look bad, I mean this thing is a replacement for a century series jet and it has IR MAWS
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Lets remember to keep this thread on track and not go off topic.
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I wonder why Mulatu Astatke comments are always flagged 🤔
It is as much a clone of the EFT as the AMX 30 is the leopard. France got what they needed out of both programs, both programs did not continue to meet French needs, they developed their own solutions from what they found useful in each program.
“Clone” is a very askew way to term it.
they were there long enough to get the valuable base. as far as I can tell the only major difference is the rafales are also naval aircraft.
its a split in the path more than a clone true. Its just very french to storm out of a joint project only to do basically the same thing and then claim its totally different because its french
France/Dassault had been making deltas for 50 years prior to the Rafale, and the Mirage 4000 which is a delta with moving canards (although not to the extent of Rafale/EFT) already existed prior to the two aircrafts.
Would make a lot more sense to call the Rafale a copy of the M4K and not EFT.
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where and when?
Export success outside of Europe, the only thing that beats it is the US arms market.
Radar tech, from the start the Rafale was better
Arguably better ECM (though this is kinda hard to prove since it’s classified AF) (360° coverage for sure though)
Payload, the Rafale has it beat by about a ton
*On account of subsidising and expending long held stock that no longer serves to keep
Let’s just remember which particular exporter we’re talking about regarding what beats it.
Also should note that the Rafale A prototype for the Eurofighter program had been unveiled and flew before the EAP, so it doesn’t make any sense at all to say the Rafale is a copy of anything.
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Yeah, I worded it dodgy, didn’t mean clone so much as things like m4k influenced France’s desire for a thing like Rafale. But my words failed me 😿
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Phrogge :D
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