Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

I think they should make the scan speed dependent on the selected range scale, which is probably something in the development pipeline I would imagine …

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@Zayf unable to prove this math as “wrong”?

Thank god

I don’t understand why they would implement AESA radar if they reduce their capabilities to balance them

TWS Narrow:
CAPTOR-M: 20x4.2 deg / Period: 0.6s / Scan rate: 66.67 deg/s / Update rate: When scanned
V004: 30x10 deg / Period 0.92s / Scan rate: 130.43 deg/s / Update rate: 0.01s
RBE2-AA: 30x15.75 deg / Period: 1.7s / Scan rate: 123.53 deg/s / Update rate: 0.01s
NO11M: 25x4 deg/ Period: 0.4s / Scan rate: 125deg/s / Update rate: 0.01s

TWS Medium:
CAPTOR-M: 60x8.4 deg / Period: 3.7s / Scan rate: 64.86 deg/s / Update rate: When scanned
V004: 60x10 deg / Period 1.85s / Scan rate: 129.73 deg/s/ Update rate: 0.01s
RBE2-AA: 70x15.75 deg / Period: 3.96s / Scan rate: 123.74 deg/s / Update rate: 0.01s
NO11M: 45x6.67 deg / Period: 1.1s / Scan rate: 163.64 deg/s / Update rate: 0.01s

TWS Wide:
CAPTOR-M: 140x4.2 deg / Period: 4.3s / Scan rate: 65.12 deg/s / Update rate: When scanned
V004: 60x20 deg / Period 3.69s / Scan rate: 130.01 deg/s / Update rate: 0.01s
RBE2-AA: 70x31.5 deg / Period: 7.92s / Scan rate: 123.74 deg/s / Update rate: 0.01s
NO11M: 80x7.5 deg / Period: 1.5s / Scan rate: 213.33 deg/s / Update rate: 0.01s

The BARS radar is kind of weird honestly, it doesnt have anywhere near a consistant scan rate now that I look at it. I wonder if that was a mistake. Its narrow scan rate is in the same ballpark as the other ESA’s, but its wide scan rate is in a league of its own.

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Nobody understands why they gave the Rafale AESA in the first place.

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  1. There’s absolutely no context nor prooper form to these calculations, and I’m not versed enough in jet thermodynamics to fill the blanks. If you could clarify it to me I’d gladly read it.

  2. Really bro ?

Beides that current Scan rates on RBE2-AA and N011M seem to be based on nothing concrete (maybe on T/R count, but would that even make sense…), I hope they give AESA Radars multiple Scan-Volumes which are scanned at the same time and independed from each other.

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I dont really see any reason the RBE2-AA needs any improvements atm, its still the best radar ingame by a country mile atm.

The NO11M needs some fixing tho, there shoulsnt be such a massive discrepency in its scan speeds, but at the same time theres no source to say its “wrong”, it just doesnt fit with all the other radars ingame. Personally id drop it to its lowest scan rate, but increase its scan area to match the report put in earlier this week.

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I just like things perform correctly )))

However, yea - MICA range rather needs adjustments. After some SB rounds recently, the R-77-1 seems to be quite realiable and 'bit than AIM-120B in practice. The MICA EM is not bad rn, but I do see AIM-120C-5 coming sooner than later, while MICA being limited way too much compared to IRL.

Edit: After playing more SB (just now), MICA EM absolutely needs its proper range.

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Su-30 are far superior at BVR atm

Impossible to fight back, they’re launching way to early, out of range of Mica.

And their radar will also get a lock before the rafale in a front-front engagement

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Using the TV channel in SB is also quite useful. Thanks to the new 30km visual render range, the OFS can kinda be used for IFF and pseudo NCTR - also nice to distinguish between players and NPC’s.

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You can launch at 34km on MICA. Only way a R-77-1 will hit some at that range its AFK players.

That’s extremely optimistic, at what attitude?

7000m, 9000m at 1.5m. I have being able to shoot down people with R-77-1 at these range. But funny enough is people that actually TURN into the missile. When the thing its just hanging on the air. If they add something like Su-35s i can see the R-77-1 being a problem.

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I mean now that the rafale can just reach mach 2 on a dime at high altitude i dont think we want the mica to get a buff because now that would make it the best bvr missile in the game which would be nice but annoying for everyone else that has to fight against it
The missile is already able to go past mach 4 and if you reduce its drag coefficient it will probably reach past that 50 km range
They already buffed the seeker beamwitdth on it which makes it pretty much unnotchable at 10 km if you aren’t in a delta or a plane that can perform high aoa turns plus in addition that you are now faster than ever in the rafale the missile will take 5 sec or lower to reach the target at that distances

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Are now R27ET immune to flare? I’m playing with MAW On, this thing emptying all my flares and i still get hit

What aspect are you getting launched at
if its rear aspect you are kinda cooked depending on the distance but you will need to do evasive maneuvers
Side aspect can be tricky sometimes depending on the plane you are playing and your flare pattern
Front aspect always gets flared