Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

Did I ever say it’s more important? I just said that data fusion is an important thing for the plane, not the most important.

I agree but baby steps we cant have one jet in the game with all the bells and whistles while the rest are modelled so poorly.

If Gaijin want to add real sensor fusion it will take time.

Right now the Typhoon has fusion it just needs the Sensors…

Obviously if it has to be added it will be done over time and on all planes, I’m not particularly in favor of it at the moment, the game will no longer have any meaning

MICA being nerfed in-game makes this a rather fair trade

Yes and No I have no problems with the Rafale having the range of the 120.
In fact it would (pre nerfs) be far easier to kill Rafales in BVR than have the short to medium range knife fights you always lose.

Gaijin nerfed the MICA because the Rafale would have completely invalidated every other jet in game.
They added the 2019 model with an AESA instead of an earlier model with the PESA

You cant have the best FM, best Radar and best Missile.

  • Unlike ASRAAM or IRIS-T, Mica IR will be immune to anything short of spectral flares. This means immunity to even BOL flares. Then there’s also the Mica NGs to come…
  • I doubt Captor-E will come anytime soon. There’s not enough info on it. For example, Eurofighter mains don’t have a single source for its range.
  • Rafale’s DDM NG has been reported to have at least three times the range (>27km) compared to the Eurofighter’s MAWS (~9km) as things stand. Eurofighter mains have no reliable source for the range of MAWS anyway.
  • OSF should simply be a far better IRST than PIRATE when all things are modelled.
  • Rafale is also missing a lot more sensor fusion as others have pointed out.
  • Rafale is still missing its electronic warfare capability, such as the ability to jam radars.

I could go on but that’s just off the top of my head.

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Those are both missing from Eurofighter as well.

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ASRAAM has a new seeker head, but again you would be silly to think every jet that faces these missiles will not have Spectral/Smart countermeasures.

Agreed it’s very new should be on par with what the Rafale has or superior being that is 2020 technology similar to the APG-81

As are many aircraft, it’s not something in game currently. Or boy would I have fun jamming Radars in my Tornado F.3

3 times the range isn’t really an accurate figure though. I don’t doubt again being newer it isn’t superior. Typhoons is modelled incorrectly though and the limited information confirms 60± Azimuth and we have 40± modelled in game.

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Newer does not always equal better than counterparts

Generally in technology terms it does.

My understanding is that Rafale’s electronic warfare suite is far more extensive. But I’d have to quote someone else for anything further.

Any examples of these that could be added?

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Rafale has them. I don’t know about any other planes. I don’t know much about planes in general.

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Typhoon does

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Ok, then why isn’t F-22A (in service 2005) in-game and lower BR than Su-30SM (in service 2013)

Since tech is better if it’s newer

Right?

Has it been introduced on Eurofighters yet?

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We are not talking about in game but likely real world performance of a brand new Radar system.

F-22 is a freak of nature but in 2005 configuration it’s sensors are outdated compared to todays Rafale or even a Typhoon.

The brand new Captor E or whatever name it is going by will be expected to have similar performance to current in service AESA radars. Otherwise what’s the point?

also there’s this return form i assume pilots have to fill when returning and there’s both mtv and spectral flares as options: Weapons and Expendable Stores Daily Flight Return (DFR)

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