Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

Obviously. Turning a semi-accurate F.3R into an F.3R / F.4.1 hybrid is definitely not my idea…

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no it’s not,… it’s within it’s flight model:

MICA-EM Flight model data is showing 50km (the +0.8km dedale_stargate was speaking about is the time missile activate self destruct sequence)

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I dont think we would have had that fix anyway. Only fix is to have TVC and non TVC micas. I dunno if they can make them so its decided during launch which file would be used based on range of launch but as of now, they would have to ridiculously reduce its drag where it would be probably broken if launched at like 12-15km of alt, another thing is loft, it pretty much doesnt loft.

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I just saw the news, sorry to see that everything you did is going to be overlooked

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I thought it has always been 50KM?

In game, yes. Irl? No, it should be around 80km

To anyone of any significance reading this thread:

We DO NOT want 2 extra fake missiles, I know it is difficult to research but we have provided you with numerous sources. We want a fixed MICA, please. It doesn’t matter if you have to mess around with TVC outside of X range as @MysteriousHonza said.

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correct

But it should be 80

Thing is, at the time, we didn’t have f15 and typhoons that could give AMRAAMs as much energy as they can now

Yeah I know IRL is 80km, But now we get 8 unhistorical MICA which is way better then before so you nore going to be seeing my compain. and yeah 6 real mica would have been better for historical accuracy but I already have up on that.

They could just change the classification, they don’t have to keep it as an F3R

If they wanted to fix them, it would have been done instead of adding additional 2 missiles.
Like, whole missile has issues. From too high drag, too big diameter, wobbling even after burning out a lot, self destructing at 50km to spinning if launched at low speeds… That thing is wrong in everything exept its looks. We need whole new mica at this point, not simple fix. Preferably something that can automatically switch off TVC a limit itself to 35Gs at long range non off bore shots.

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We need F4.1 for when we get METEOR and F4.2 for MICA-NG

Shoulda been a MICA fix instead of 8 MICA. That way the Mirage 2000-5F wins, the -5Ei wins, the future MICA-slinging planes win (Mirage F2000 when), future Rafales win…

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15C MSIP II was capable of doing it even then, it just took a bit more time. It was blatantly broken in sim where you can sideclimb over your airfields, then gain mach 2 and rain hell on top of enemy team.

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It’s Gaijin, they’ll just call it F4.1 (late) and put it behind 440k RP lmao.

If… IF they ever fix mica, they can take these 2 away or remove them from wingtips and force magic IIs there.
But as of now, fix is probably not on their minds so atleast, we get more missiles to lob at range and get decent position for once by pressuring enemy. Now you have to conserve your missiles and wait for high PK shots which puts you into insane disadvantage and defensive position.

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More missiles is better than nothing, we won’t see a realistic MICA for a while

This makes no one happy at all, but yeah, at this point let’s just cut out the slop and call it the F.4.1 rather than Frankenstein it. They can do what they always have for the French TT like with the F1 and Super Étendard, and add in earlier variants like the F.2.2 and F.3R many years too late. And then just like the -5F they’ll add Meteors next year or add a second plane and call it the F.4.1 (Late) or something leaving everyone disappointed. And French players will just make do as they always have.

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Eurofigher bros must be fumming rn because of the 2x extra micas 😂

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Please correct the tearing speed of the plane, 1458 km\h is a dizzying nightmare!

Respectfully

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