Well a quick Google search returns stories about RAF pilots claiming to have beaten Rafales in a dog fight. I imagine there are stories of French pilots claiming to have beaten Eurofighter too, but it’s enough to throw reasonable doubt on the Rafale having always won.
Qatar ordered Rafales, then a couple of years later ordered Eurofighters. So that counts as a draw.
And when it looked like Germany would pull out of the Eurofighter programme due to budget cuts Britain investigated co-production of the Rafale C with France as an alternative, but concluded it was significantly inferior to Eurofighter.
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No that is wrong. this was discussed in the old forum to death and every wing pylon exept the most outer 1 can carry the Meteor.
True But then with the room made out of alowing Missile where fuel tanks are fuel tank they could even place a twin rack there and boom + 4 missiles on 2 slots 200% efficiency but twin racks have never been a thing for Rafale afaik, sad
France seems to be allergic to twin racks for air to air, probably imposing too much drag/weight than they’d like.
There must be something of the sort indeed but also in the doctrine of France it always has been a priority to make plane that could carry missiles and bomb/A2G weapons at the same time since 3rd or 4th gen so twin racks probably have been considered as a loss of time at this point as they would take space and restrain access to the use of other armament but it could change in the future as Air combat involving missiles only is more and more a thing and the need for a plane to carry lots of AAM is increasing.
Look up the full story of the ATLS show, it has been proven that the Rafale have beaten the EF by 6 to 1 if i remember. Dassault has communicated about it, which is not the case for EADS. I think even the RAF ordered a development of a new radar for the EF after this.
Concerning the competition, in every countries the Eurofighter has always been ranked under the Rafale, there is even the report from the swiss test
About Germany and UK i never heard about, but it wouldn’t make any sense for them to buy the Rafale, with how much they invested in the program and infrastructure to develop the EF
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Gunna need proof of that mate cause the manuals say otherwise…
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This document is used and re used and above all over used it’s not for 1 review that it means Typhoon is worse at everything seriously grow up nobody uses that document anymore. Otherwise Typhoon enjoyers could do the same to us using a single comparision where Typhoon won and your whole argument goes down.
I am not gonna post classified data here to prove a point.
Just let me say this there are 2 kinds of pylons one light and one Heavy (3rd if u count wet)
Every pylon can carry the missles
No this swiss trial result, one every Rafale cultist use to prove they are right. I know it a lot as i used it at some point but since then i evolved and learnt about what is the Typhoon and it’s capabilities and i stil consider Rafale is better but not by a margin as important as i thought.
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This is from when the Swiss evaluated early Rafale and Eurofighter variants, and when they also evaluated the potential of the 2016 (or so) variants. They measured Gripen, F-18C, Rafale, and Eurofighter in several metrics. But no one really knows what exactly those metrics means. Indian MMRCA is still under wraps.
the only thing the EFT has over the Rafale is engine power and weight but that is fair as the rafale is meant for naval so will be heavier
Flight performance of the two is hard to judge but they are both very good
There is a non naval versin of the Rafale
Firstly, I was hoping the light hearted banter wouldn’t devolve into this.
That said, I would just mention that from the only trial where we actually see which aircraft does what ‘better’, (the Swiss one), the Eurofighter sent by EADS was faulty.
That said, older tranche Typhoons could be said to be marginally dissapointing as a package, but then again so were older tranche Rafale’s, however the Rafale was a more mature platform and at the time, was probably the better buy.
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The Eurofighter can also use bigger radars than the Rafale, and also has a bigger missile count by doctrine. Rafale is playing catch up in regards to missile count.
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I am 99% sure thats from the swiss trial.
