Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

Because the Eurofighter’s STR is underperforming. And presumably Rafale’s is too.

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Ok… got Rafale and EF… Rafale CANT even compete with typhoon. Not even close. The BVR capability of typhoon is insane, even with that broken radar. The acceleration is crazy on nearly stock performance one.
Rafale doesnt belong at 14.0 if EF is 14.0.

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Do you think there is room for a suggestion to increase the VNe on the deck? I think it is clear for this type of fighter that it is a restriction on the maximum flight speed to protect the RAM coating and not a structural or engine limitation. Perhaps they can use a larger modifier for these fighters going forward as a suggestion.

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did you try the rafale in SIM AB? pure stock suffering

Nah, i dont even stock grind top tier planes.
I always gold it to missiles.
Rafale sucks anyway. It CANT compete at range, you always have to be in defensive. But hey, lets limit it to 6 mediocre missiles that are good below like 10km.

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i would be ok with 6 missiles…

…if they were competitive just like the others, plus ofc the subpar “AESA” we got and a not-360 RWR-MWS, or even a HUD cue for magic IIs, for real, is this a realistic feature of the rafale? not having a fox2 pipper on the hud?

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Iam pretty sure that hud is completely wrong for most part.

I hope they improve locking capabilities in helmet and ACM… because now, it refuses to lock beaming targets.
It can be actually decent, if the radar is jacked AF and will just lock and keep the lock anytime you look at something.
Now you cant really even use mica offbore as HMD simply refuses to lock anything thats not hot on you.
Whats cool is its ITR at speed. You can shove your nose around once and pretty much force anyone into defensive after merge - if they continue in turn, you smack them with headon mica.

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Errr quite the discussion going on here …

So far my experience with Raf has been phenomenal as a sim player, took me a minute to get used to all of the information that is fed to the pilot but now I am extremely comfortable in it.

The flight model however feels extremely unrealistic, now of course like most if not all of us we have not flown a Raf in real life, but I just don’t think its supposed to perform this well but that would go for every and all aicraft in this game. Guess it is a game after all.

Have also neither yet met a competent EF player and they all are free kills. The radar is iffy but gets the job done until we get it fixed and the hms locking Honza mentioned can be ridiculous sometimes but haven’t experienced it in a bit now. The gun is incredible as well and is extremely satisfying.

The hud looks phenomenal, MFDs look excellent but can be improved of course but so far everything about the Raf is 11/10 in my experience excluding Radar.

I don’t bother with M2’s and run Full mica’s and it absolutely destroys in Sim.

Hope to get radar fixed asap and otherwise hope all of you others are having a great experience as well!

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did you? i felt quite bad in SIM but maybe it’s because i’m stock

really hated the radar and HMD being quite confusing in VR but maybe is just me that i have to get used to it

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I stock grinded too! Got maw first then went for g suit, engines and mica as fast as possible.

I was struggling a lot at first bc I got overwhelmed by the HMD but once I got used to it and all the info it gave I have no problems using it now.

Just take your time I guess and hopefully you’ll be destroying in the raf soon enough!

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I’ve played enough France to find that the missiles tend to be good enough to make up for their lack of numbers though, Super Etendard is one of my best performing high tier jets

They need to fix MICA so much, especially now

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I completely agree, the SIM experience with the rafale is amazing thanks to HUD, MFD’s etc. Just one point I would like to improve and I’ll probably submit a report for this, is the wrong unit of the HUD and MFD’s. For the MFD’s radar tilt, the scale is 0 to 25km, so it compresses a lot the distances and make the identification quite complicated. It should be in feet, with a scale from 0 to 45k feet as per seen in this MFD picture :

Screenshot 2024-12-17 at 09.26.35

Also we can see on this HUD picture that the unit should be in feet as well and not km as IG :

Screenshot 2024-12-17 at 09.27.38

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Even better! Just wish the speed measurement was in knots instead of km/h, drop bugreport link asap pls.

me and others will upvote asap.

Glad we can agree btw, it is an INCREDIBLE aircraft. SO much fun man.

Does anyone know if the rafale had the ability to deploy 1 chaff at a time or is it stuck with 2 at a time? 56 uses of chaff really doesn’t cut it for top tier, especially with how poor the MICA performs outside of 15km.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ffceHrUSnJh8

my first ever report, I don’t know if I did it properly haha

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That M791 gun sound makes me look forward to getting the Rafale a whole lot

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Just SUCH a joy man.

Ultimately this is exactly why players ask for the x8 MICA loadout to somehow compensate in numbers for the lackluster performance of the MICA EM in the game ( advertised as being in the 100km class ). Had the MICA have a ressemblance of competitiveness in BVR over a 5 years older AIM-120A ( with much lower advertised max range ) im sure people would had been ok with x6 .

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Ita gonna take me a while to get it tbf, i gotta grind the whole french tree. Been holding off on it cuz i dont like the F1C and was hoping for a better prem to use.

Btw, kinda suprised i have seen you in sim before? 🤔

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