Rafale VNe on the deck is correct.
From Dassault Aviation
Spoiler
VNe in game is calculated by that * 1.05. As a result, we get 1458 km/h, which is what we have now, it is not overperforming at all.
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It remains a handicap, the majority of planes have stock missile carriages that allow them to carry air-to-ground weapons and long-range missiles without having to unlock all the weapon modifications.
The F-14, F-15, F-16, Mig-29, Su-27, Su-34, J-10, J-11 all have their stock missiles placed in such a way that they can carry all their stock missiles + air-to-ground weapons without having to unlock all their missile modifications.
The only Top tier planes that must sacrifice missiles for their air-to-ground weapons in the top tier are those that either do not have room to put them elsewhere (Grippen, Av 8B+) and even if they reduce the quantity of these weapons they can take both.
So no, it makes no sense to limit the Rafale like this, I imagine the faces of American players if the stock AIM-120s of the F-15E had been installed under the CFTs, forced to mount all the missile modifications to have access to long-range air-to-air and air-to-ground
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Still wouldn’t be able to bring a fraction the air to ground payload of the competition with those pylons freed up. So even from that perspective, bit rubbish the pylon allocation of the stock set. We would actually have less payload than the Gripen, even with 2 AMRAAMs, if we only loaded those pylons. But if we add the GBU 24, we’d still be worse off than a Gripen carrying 1 AMRAAM.
Honestly, not sure what to do with this information now. Kind of surprised we would have less explosive payload than the least laden light fighter.
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What are you on about man
Do you ever stop attacking these guys because it has a HMD
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The misconception a lot of people make is that Rafale is a pure precision Striker not a dumb bombs slinger. Also Mk 81,82,83 have been suggested but not been added for now it seems.
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Oh, I’m aware of the precision, not hefty payload. I’m just more surprised that Gripen can carry anything worth a damn. Always felt Gripen’s payload a bit eh, but I was doing alright on dev with Rafale so dunno what my issue is with Gripen’s payload.
Worked it out, thing becomes a bit too close to a brick the moment you even half load it with heavier bombs.
what did i said about the avionic suite? oh yes, that it will not even be modelized at the third of it’s Real abilities ^^"
but, i have no merits, i do play this game since 2012, i know exactly how Gaijin is making french vehicules overall (wrongly off-course)
the F.5 isn’t even fully prototyped yet,… don’t bring this one in ^^"
F.4.1 yes and F.4.2 aswell (but that’s all we can say for sure)
Who asked you tho. I was giving an explanation i don’t care about what you said or not.
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My bad, I had been shown a different number, ty for correcting me o7
They are exporting the russian top tier radar experience
You cant even cruise at 103%, it will rip itself apart.
Yup, made a mistake, was given the wrong number, my bad on that one, edited the comment. o7
101% will also do it in level flight at ~400m altitude.
Well, it’s getting late and I don’t have time but here is some example of a non-F4 Rafale with the MICA on the external wing pylon
The Rafale F3 was put into service in 2008.
The Rafale F3R in 2021.
And finally, the F4 2024.
So if we if this logic of commissioning any information before 2024 is a version of the Rafale F3 r or other.
First article (Jan 27, 2014): https://defense-update.com/20140127_rafale_omnirole_configuration.html
DGA Test:
The Rafale has successfully completed its first test flights in a new heavily-armed configuration, comprising six air-to-ground precision AASM Hammer missiles, four medium and long range air-to-air missiles from the MICA family, two very long range METEOR missiles, as well as three 2,000 liter fuel tanks. Photo: Dassault Aviation
This preliminary work, self-funded by Dassault Aviation’s are conducted in collaboration with the DGA and will eventually lead to a complete clearance of the flight envelope. Photo: Dassault Aviation
“Four MICA air-to-air missiles and two very long range Meteor missiles will be complementing the fighter’s air-to-air capability. The MICA missiles are operational and can be employed with IR or radar guided. These Meteor missiles are yet to enter service – but they are expected to be fielded with the F3-R variant by 2018.”
second Article: (July 10, 2021)
Rafale B01 prototype: where the MICAs are already equipped under wing on the pylon (2 and 13)
Video : Salon du bourget 2023
Rafale F3-R
(Sortie le 17 juil. 2023 by ATE CHUET )
Time code: 3:03
(Sortie le 22 juin 2023 by Xavier Tytelman)
Time code : 7:36
And there we can see a Rafale B with the MICA on the Pylon (2 and 13), still in 2023 so the F4 has still not entered service
We already have quite a few sources to affirm that the MICA Missile was mounted on the pylon (2 and 13) well before 2024 and the arrival of the Rafale F4
Other article:
(Sunday, November 21, 2010)
Rafale avec un mica sur le point d’emport externe de l’aile (Bourget 2009)
We can already see that in 2009 the Missile was mounted on these pylon
other image : 阵风翼下加挂的米卡导弹_新浪图集_新浪网
Well if we move on to the most fantastic thing:
https://x.com/MBDAGroup/status/1303973441972965378
It’s a cool image but it doesn’t prove anything, sad ^^
And last:
@Smin1080p_WT & @WreckingAres283
Thanks for reading
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I cant even get it to 101… mousewheel lets me go to 100-103-106-109-110. In sims, i have detent so its pretty much not possible to get low AB setting for me.
Buddy, they dont care. Gaijin has 0 incentive to make french TT powerful. On top of that, you have bunch of people here who will happily spend 40 hours just trying to shut down anything proposing another 2 pylons for rafale in french TT and i highly doubt they even have french TT.
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The funniest thing is that if he had added the MICA IR we would surely have all waited for the F4 for the 8 missiles but no ^^
Imho… it should have been added. Combined IRCCM of magic and 9M, limited to wingtips only so 2 IRs max. At range, it should be possible to defeat them, at close, most likely impossible and to be fair, i dont care. If you get this close on top tier, they should be punished.
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Ah yeah adding a missiles that’d mean giving the whole range of other TVC IR missiles in game. Peak idea. Would give litterally no advantage in the end
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Noone else should get them,… noone else is limited to 6 short ranged fox3s only.
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