Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance - Part 2

paywall with new box.

you can still get it for 0.30 gj coin befre its goes up

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I don’t have 0.30 gjc sadly, only 0.18 iirc

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huh no
stupid gooner selling it for insane price

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I like this one, reminds me a bit of that desert M4K camo

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old message I know, but it wouldn’t make sense to put a radar on a stealth missile if you want your approach to remain hidden until the last moment. EW suite on modern ships would probably be able to detect an active seeker

On Stratus RS it wouldn’t be much of a problem since it goes in with brute speed instead of discretion

Hello, does anyone have a list of bug reports for the Magic II missile?

I’d like to get an idea of where it’s underperforming.

@Macron-Spokesman you have a list of that. I’m sure you do, there’s no doubt on it

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@ILuvAnneHathaway Smin had provided us with a list of magic 2 reports previously but I can’t find it at this time, the list contained even the internal reports as well.

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Ah okay, I was mostly interested in seeing if reports about “dual plane” were made and possibly submitted as suggestion.

Also seeker performance to be fair.

So reports for the dual plane was made internally, but those had been “resolved”/not-a-bugged.

But the Magic 2 had already essentially been buffed according to other reports to do 35G at Mach 1.2 airspeed and pull more at higher speeds doing 50G. So it essentially already has dual plane maneuvering but there’s no sense in pointing this out for now when the AIM-54 crowd is agitating for dual plane and they’re being told that dual plane mechanic is not in the game.

There is a known report for Magic 2 seeker to have flare decoy rejection, and it is sitting 2 years accepted.

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Another surprise; the new AASM-LIR has been qualified within just 24h by DGA, with three out of three succesfull shots - the new bi-mode (Laser and Infrared + GNSS/IOG) version of the AASM will most likely enter service this year.

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Hold on, laser AND infrared AND satellite AND inertial?
AASM is so goated and somehow still getting more goated over time

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It seems they want to develop a ballistic missile for Rafale

About 1000km of range at least. Would get in service on F5 variant around the early 2030s, just like stratus

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Could you provide the text of the article if possible? It’s paywalled for me.

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Basically what it says (i’m not too sure if i can share directly)

  • development of a 1000km aero-ballistic missile for Rafale (limited maneuvering possible at the end of the flight path)
  • They considered higher ranges but want to keep the missile relatively small to fit on Rafale and for cost savings
  • It will complement other missiles supposed to enter service in the same time period (Stratus RS, AASM with improved sustainer, ASN4G)
  • The cost is expected to be similar to a cruise missile (SCALP or Stratus ?)

There is not a lot of technical information (guidance, speed) for now. I have a feeling they kind of decided that last minute after taking notes on the 2 most recent conflicts, so that’s to be expected

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MBT yup, for air, marine potentially, and ground.

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For the speed, it can already be inferred from the fact that it’s a 1000km range ballistic missile. We can expect something along the line of :

  • from a ground platform to reach 1000km : anywhere from 4 to 5km/s of maximum speed during ascension and an altitude of 150-300km maximum
  • from a rafale at 15km Mach 0.9 to reach 1000km range :
    Anywhere from 3.5 to 4.5km/s maximum speed during ascension and an altitude of 100-200km of altitude at apogee.

The guidance would probably be almost exclusively INS (due to the plasma preventing any sensor to work during reentry, including GNSS, which can still be recalibrated before atmospheric reentry however) with preprogrammed evading maneuvers, like what is seen on modern missiles of this class

Technically the missile can accept radio commands with the plasma cloud at mach 10 but it requires an extremely powerful radio signal.

US Nike-X system had Sprint missile that used radio command guidance for an ABM interceptor that accelerated to mach 10 at super low altitude as a final defense against nuclear warheads already released and nearing impact. Ground based phased array radar located the ballistic missile warheads in their terminal phase and provided the command guidance for Sprint interceptor.

More CCA planned other than nEUROn (10t) for Rafale in the 2-4t and 4-5t range.

Tardif said the air force will launch a request for information through the DGA arms procurement agency to assess what industry can offer. Collaborative combat aircraft on the market include Anduril’s Fury and the Airbus-Kratos Valkyrie.

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