Hello lads, have anyone heard if the A2SM 1000 and the Exocet were going to be added anytime soon on the Rafale M?
They rejected exocet and aasm 1000 come with f4.1 so not those Rafale.
Ok, any reason why they didn’t accept the Exocet?
Otherwise i do not know their reason.
when should Meteor be added then?
MICA NG EM = AIM-120C-7/8
METEOR = AIM-120D’s
R-27EA = AIM-120C7/8 for USAF/USN and EFT’s + MICA NG EM for Rafale
AIM-120D = Meteor but then people are going to ask for R-37 and an Su-30MKI with Astra Missiles
Aim-120d is not a meteor equivalent, that’s more aim-260
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Afaik AIM-120D is not a METEOR equivalent, they’re different classes of missiles
And AIM-174 which is actually in service with the Superhornet iirc
Arent AIM-120C8s just an export designation for AIM-120D?
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AIM-120D was developped to answer PL-15 chinese missile, before the arrival of more modern missiles.
the METEOR is in active service since 2012.
PL-15 reached active service in 2016.
AIM-120D reached service in 2012 and reach Initial Service state in 2015.
AIM-174B reached service in 2021
AIM-260 JATM reached service in 2024
AIM-120D was therefore in the METEOR class. (at least the D-3 alongisde C-8 F3R program)
nah they’re still different inside, despite using lot of components from the F3R program that both missile were coming from.
mostly because some of the components are “not exportable” in the US MoD mind.
AIM-120C-7 = AIM-120C-5
AIM-120C-8 = AIM-120D
Meteor > AIM-120D
It may even be possible that MICA NG EM > AIM-120D in overall performance due to AESA seeker.
C-7 have an extended range over the C-5
For in-game purposes where we can’t know many of the classified info on what is the seeker differences of AIM-120C-8 and AIM-120D, I suspect it will be the same in-game.
Summoning the British mains. I believe @Gunjob mentionned in the EFT Thread that the range extension actually comes from C3 onwards and that C7 as the same range as the C5 for in game purposes
It has same range as C-5, two different sources show this.
yes and? is it our fault if we design better missiles?
same story with AIM-9X vs MICA-IR or IRST
same story with AIM-120C early vs MICA-EM
they have access to the same technology, and made it differently.
that’s why i’m completely against the “we need X and Y Characteristics to be the same, for balance purposes” that we so often see in the MICA thread,…
now we’re saying that METEOR is a 10 years old older than AIM-174B/AIM-260 but should be introduced at the same time?
where is the realistic behavior?
what will be the precision of those Seekers, with 10 years old differences in technologies?
it will be “fun” “playing” this game in some months,… really.
R-27EA (from the “discord presumptions” that @MBDA_MICA shared) is close by AIM-120D performances
in game it will be most likely be a r27er that lofts, with the same copy paste seeker stats as everything else
and with the r-27er 50-60km shots are doable in WT anything further isnt really doable due to the limited battery life
ppl only want the service introduction date to be follwed when it beifits them
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