@DirectSupport I’m struggling with this report;
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/CVyDOzKEgByo
You claimed this is a 140° PPI display but its the same 120° display but stretched?
Original in the report;
Do you have any evidence of a 140° PPI display other than what was in this report?
Beat me to it, the ~5° off is likely because the image is taken at an angle.
actually those PPI displays are squished top to bottom so thats where the extra 5° comes from;
Example of a not squished version;
Wait they tried to sell the Rafale to Finland? Didn’t know but not very surprising though. But oh well, they too picked the F-35
no no. you can call him dot. its fine
Yes. All the PPI displays I have been able to source point to 120° of scanning.
Nothing to do with me. I just happened to drop by the Rafale thread to see what the new posts were and got curious so measured the images.
This isn’t a opportunity to derail the thread and post memes. I’m just here gathering evidence. Please keep on topic. I will summon my Forum Mod collegues.
It’s a fair question to ask, since not all AESA radars are 140 degrees. For example F-22’s radar is 120 degrees and that’s AESA (although the devs keep giving US AESA radars a default ±70 gimbal limit)
But the Rafale’s AESA is 140. Do note that sources prior to ~2019 would show PESA which is 120 degree gimbal limits. Now that I look back at it, all the videos linked here are prior to 2019 and would have been PESA.
Primary source clarifies that the RBE2 AESA radar had increased coverage over the PESA
Secondary sources clarifies:
Yup, what once could have been.
This story is a whole can of worms. Apparently, the US allegedly sold their f35 to Finland at a loss to einsure the deal, since they’ll ultimately will make their money back through the insane costs of maintenance of the aircraft
I hate how so many countries picked the F-35 disregarding their actual needs, a eurocanard or even just modernized F-16s were often the better option. But whatever, it’s too late now
Its good Portugal pulled out and is debating between Gripen E with EJ230 engine (Typhoons TVC engine so that they dont have anything to do with america) or the Typhoon. At least the last I read on it a few months ago
And Canada looks to be doing the same, canceling F-35 and looking at Gripen E
Not sure about Portugal but as far as Canada’s concerned all signs still point to us buying the F-35, the announcement just keeps being delayed until it’s politically viable to do so.
offtopic but
Gripen E with EJ230 engine (Typhoons TVC engine so that they dont have anything to do with america)
That is not happening, Saab CEO recently said in an interview that it was not realistic to switch the engine.
And Canada looks to be doing the same, canceling F-35 and looking at Gripen E
Air force is totally against a second fleet and want more f-35, only politics are against it looks more and more that they will just continue buying f-35 and that is it.
It makes a lot more sense tbh, and while I’m more of a fan of the Rafale the others make more sense (being compatible with the armament that Portugal already has). But the F-35 really isn’t suited for small air forces
It doesn’t seem likely to me that SAAB actually modify the gripen to allow other engines. It is more likely that they’d go away from American engines with their next generation fighter, if they manage to get another country to produce the engine - since I don’t think they currently have the capability to develop their own fighter jet engines.
Also seeing as Canada doesn’t seem to do very much to actually get away from the f35, looks like they’ll stick to it but go official on it when the political landscape is more open
Thanks much better.
