Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance - Part 2

btw where do you get mach 2.5 for mica?

If mica vl and mica are the same missile why did they say mica vl starts production later? It seems like MIca vl could have a bigger or stronger motor

We know that deltaV is aroud 1000m/s iirc from a report by @Macron-Spokesman. But the reduced burn time is indeed correct

MICA VL was the cheap way of french air force to recycle MICAs that could not fly any longer by using them as airfield protection in the form of VLS SAM

It’s the same missile that you put in a tube, literally.
The system to hold them started production later, but the missiles already existed

With the NG variant though, they planned to produce missiles for both aircrafts and SAM afaik

MICA VL is identical to MICA, that’s the main point of the platform

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My calcul doesn’t care about burn time and i agree 3sec is correct from what i found.

for a Δv of 1000 m/s the fuel mass would be 38,5kg and a thrust of 30,2 kN

they put it at 3.0s, not 3.5s quite yet

We do, but they declared the only available source that talks about the fuel mass, isp, and delta-v as classified and shut down any reports about it, straight up deleting the reports so you can’t even see it anymore.

Oh, wasn’t that the docs you could find at a public library but they considered it restricted ?

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Seems to me that they’ll have to up the delta-v anyway just because it isn’t meeting the MICA VL criteria.

Because MICA VL is the system as a whole, they still needed to produce the necessary equipments for SAM system.

Not just any public library, but an actual US military library open to the public with the book being produced by the US military.

In the last line it says based on, in the used files it says

so it could be a different booster no?

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This is a brochure for the whole system, not the missile. The system is based on the a-a MICA.

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Should lead to an increase in dV to the correct 1000m/s,
Hopefully they fix the diameter too.

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Yup, that’s the angle I was going for, the topspeed being Mach 2.5 should lead it closer to DV of ~1,000m/s.

And it would fit quite well to fix the burn time to 3.5s, that would bring around 1000m/s deltaV while keeping the current thrust roughly

irl though the actual burntime probably is 3.0 seconds while the last .5 seconds is probably residual burn, similar to Magic 2.

Dev-server updated, Rafale now has TWS GMTI and TWS SEA mode, and GMTI will need to get removed again.

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Seems about right
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Exocet now works

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