Finally, that will be useful for sure. By the way, do wagers work in nuclear thunder? I’m having something in mind for my Super Etendard
It seems that with all the new mechanisms they have planned, SCALP would be amazing, and it seems they have nerfed ARMs significantly placing more emphasis on something like SCALP to have better effectiveness in the future.
According to others JSOW seems to be slipping through all defenses with minimal effort with its reduced RCS while it doesn’t have terrain following, while ARMs seem to be ineffective with long range launches (SAMs now turn off radar when it detects long-range launches) leaving things like SCALP to be very effective in the future with long-range launches and RWR designating the target point. SCALP could be launched long-range with ESM having designated the coordinates, and enemy SAMs shutting off radar wouldn’t do anything to dissuade it.
It doesnt have “reduced RCS” currently in-game. BVVD already said that wasnt in the cards right now and was a future plan. The reason its not being targeted is because, from what I can tell from the datamines, they adjusted the AI targeting to make them unable to target the AGM-154.
Previous targeting that would catch AGM-154, as per attached comment:
Nuclear Escalation - Development update from BVV_d - #1025 by Panocek
Current targeting:
ie: They did the exact thing I said would be stupid
As it currently stands, SCALP would fall in the priority 400 basket and be targeted just fine. They’ve have to once again adjust the targeting baskets to make it fall outside of them, which in turn would make it untargetable, which as I stated, would be stupid.
That being said, yes, stealthy cruise missiles could/would be interesting to have in this mode, but they either wouldnt work in the mode, or would be unhealthy for the mode until they can be targeted and engaged under some circumstances. If SCALP was made untargetable like JSOW currently is, it would just be a similar thing to the Kh-31PD from the last run of the event, where all long range GBAD systems would die in the first 5-10min. If they werent, itd just be useless and wouldnt never manage to hit anything until you did all the SEAD work ahead of time anyways.
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Okay that makes more sense. I’ll wait and see what happens further with JSOW as well.
I think what is needed is to have buildings with different levels of “resistance”. So to destroy certain building you need to hit it with a perticular kind of weapon, i.e, something like Storm Shadow, or a bunker buster GBU, etc etc.
So the use of the Storm Shadow isnt for SEAD, but for destroying the target after SEAD. Then its just getting the balance between what can and cant engage the storm shadow.
They haven’t accurately, modelled RCS however, they have modelled it as a stealth munition.
They haven’t. You are misinterpreting the datamine, they have added a new priority 400 alongside the old priory 400. It is not replacing anything. Hence the datamine says “added one more entry to the AI target priority list”, not anything about changing or replacing a priority.
What has actually been changed is the addition of this line of code into small and stealth munitions:
“gunnerFilterMaxDistMult”: 0.3,
So basically AI can only target that munition at 0.3x the range it can target every other munition. Here is the current multiplier for each munition (basically stealth get a 0.1 multiplier, small gets 0.3):
| Munition | Detection Mult |
|---|---|
| us_agm_154a1_jsow | 0.1 |
| us_gbu_39 | 0.3 |
| us_gbu_53 | 0.3 |
| il_spice_250 | 0.3 |
| su_9m127 | 0.3 |
| su_9m127_1 | 0.3 |
| uk_brimstone_dm | 0.3 |
So Storm Shadow / SCALP / Taurus could easily be implemented with the same mechanic.
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Ty for the correction o7, I figured there was something wrong with my interpretation after a few matches earlier when I saw some 154’s get shot down
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The full list:
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Rafale F5 projected delivery goal: 2035 → 2033
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Since Gaijin hinted that the Exocet missile is planned for the next major update, I looked into the Exocet missile and the air to surface radar mode for the Rafale. The more that Gaijin fixes the Rafale, the more reports that needs to be submitted, and the more fixes they need to do.
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Complex systems with nuances will not perform as well or how they should/ccould in when put into dumbed down sandbox
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The official Dassault Rafale module came out on another platform. Since people always complained and made unsupported claims for the Rafale C having too high of a supercruise and too low of empty weight, it seems that the official product agrees with me:
The change from 9,700kg to 9,300kg empty weight was correct for the Rafale C. The Rafale C will have supercruise with weapons of Mach ~1.3-1.4. I always claimed though that the Rafale M in-game weighed too light, so that’s supported as well. In-game the Rafale M is 9,700kg when it should be ~9,950-10,100kg.
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Dassault Aviation licensed product as well, so it might or might not be marketing claim, but at least it hold more weight than some random fan made model.
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Can’t believe I’m saying this, but thanks Microsoft, this is great!
I do wonder if there’s any use in this for War Thunder, as Microsoft Flight Simulator is using confirmed data from Dassault Aviation, making it about as reliable as any other marketing tool used (Export brochures and magazines/books as well as museum plaques, all of which are used for reporting)
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No, that would make them closer to tertiary sources at best. The issue here is that we are not able to see what sources they use. We could argue that they have access to the manuals but overstated the values.
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Yeah but relying on them as a source is not possible anyway right ? Still good to have the point proven.
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Yup, like Vizender said, this data is not useable. I would also wager that it isn’t good for optics if Warthunder was to copy another product even if the product is official.
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Where is the indication of this?
I’ll see if I can get someone to test the Rafale’s supercruise in there. Certainly though it is not Mach 1.2 supercruise clean like that one report alleged.
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you somehow found or came up with a variant of the rafale with : a gun, some Magic 2s, its Radar and RWR, but no MICA, what BR would/should it be?