Another thing I’ve been thinking about for a while is, what the hell are fences for? Out of curiosity, I tested the impacts with various HEAT rounds and the fences couldn’t stop even the 90mm rounds (320mm penetration) when supposedly they should be able to stop common RPG-7s, which have a similar penetration.
Gaijin’s modelling of bar armour isn’t great.
In game it acts a basically spaced armour as HEAT shells always fuze. Where as IRL it damages the HEAT warhead to prevent it functioning properly. It’s not 100% effective, if the projectiles fuze strikes the slat or a support directly it’ll just function as spaced armour
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Scimitar Gen 3 TVD denied.
https://community.gaijin.net/p/warthunder/i/LunolyexusIu?comment=kQXpEkTe0wuIfPRjDiDRD9UV
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It’s curious to me that they put those vehicles with barbed armor, and that they are literally useless (I have to test if they are effective against 40mm HEAT), because they are not capable of protecting against absolutely any chemical ammunition, unless they are small caliber HE.
You can remove the slat armour thank the gods
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fat git is slightly less fat now woopieeee
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That’s reasonable, since there are Scimitars Mk2 without that armor. I’ll wear it anyway because I like it better aesthetically.
there isnt any HEAT shots it will currently defeat (even tho it should give 300mm protection from shape charges) so it genuinely isnt worthwhile other than for drip
I admit I’m a bit particular. For example, I only buy premium vehicles that I like aesthetically, regardless of whether they’re good or bad, and I do the same with Tech Tree tanks. Since I don’t particularly like chain link armor, I simply don’t use it, even though it’s the only armor that actually works in the game. I also don’t use the Conqueror’s armor, and I’d love to be able to remove the added armor from the American M60A3TTS or the Italian Leopard 2A2, since they didn’t have it while in service with their armies.
Regarding the fence armor, I seem to recall that besides causing the HEAT round to detonate sooner, it also caused the tail of the HEAT round to hit the fence if it passed through, deflecting it and causing it to strike the armor at a very extreme angle,something that doesn’t happen in the game.
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I only own the vehicles i care about too. they are the only reason i play the game
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Speaking of composite issues…
Just so happens to be right where the crew are too, ha. I guess needs a bug report?
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Gaijin is a true expert at adding hugely flawed vehicles, while at the same time fixing a few errors, and forcing players to endure serious errors for years, or forever.
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Those turret plates will be HHA rather than composite anyway, they use small washers and there are turret fittings bolted directly to them.
Edit; or maybe aluminium alloy?
https://www.baesystems.com/en/article/delivering-tougher-recce-vehicles-for-afghan-ops
Is it possible that the CRV(T) family has fragmentation protection? In these images, it looked like a kind of layer covering the walls.
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IIRC it got suggested before to gaijin, however I think they turned around and claimed it was heat/sound proofing, lol. Or “not enough info”.
Huh nvm, at least 2 reports got accepted in the end
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/1kHATNsDA7MP
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/f1vxA3zQ9qtW
Of course, gaijin never actually implemented them.
I would argue that your pictures showing similar/the same spalling and those reports should be proof, but knowing the snail…
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Ah, but they’re only two years old, we have to wait another two years for them to fix it. We’re just so impatient, we need to be patient haha.
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Maybe if we are quick enough getting a report through, gaijin might give the scimi 2 its spall on launch… I know I know… a dream…
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Also looks like the Scimitar 2s ammo boxes are not armoured currently?
And I think the fuel tanks are supposed to have limited armour also?
Well, asked, and got an answer about if we need more data on the scimi 2 spall lining.
So I guess anyone with any good pics/data use the previous reports to help back yourself up and punt it in to hopefully get spall lining before it goes live and is forgotten for 5 years?
( my initial comment Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion - #4570 by Mitchverr )
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