Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk.IA: The Same Aircraft, Now Under Lend Lease!

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Curtiss H-87A-2 Kittyhawk Mk.IA

Hello and welcome to my suggestion for the next iteration of the Curtiss Kittyhawk (aka P-40) in British Service, I feel these could come to game to diversify and add different playstyles to the lower ranks of the British Tech Tree.

History

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As the war heated up it was clear that Britain and other allied nations neither had the Industry to build, nor the Money to buy the sheer number of aircraft needed to combat the Axis powers that now controlled almost all of Europe and a large chunk of Asia, This is where lend lease came in, where the US, who had a massive military-industrial complex, would give Aircraft, Equipment and ships free of charge to allied nations to be used until returned or destroyed (in most cases it was the latter). Amongst this equipment were several types of Aircraft that the UK had already bought out of their own pocket, including the Curtiss Kittyhawk, In order to differentiate between the two orders new designations were often issued with the Kittyhawk Mk.Is being delivered under lend lease now being dubbed Kittyhawk Mk.IAs.

Whilst it is true that the Kittyhawk Mk.Is were based on the earlier P-40D model, compared to the Mk.A being based off the newer P-40E model, the modifications to most of the Mk.Is (6 x 12.7mm MGs instead of 4) made it almost indistinguishable from the newer models, meaning many squadrons ended up with a mix of the Mk.I and Mk.IA models

In service the Kittyhawk Mk.IAs served very similar roles to the earlier Mk.Is, still being outclassed by the more advanced german fighters, however proving deadly in the ground attack roles instead, either strafing ground targets with its 6 x 12.7mm Machine guns or dropping bombs on them with its mix of bombs up to 500 lbs in size, despite the aircraft being obsolete by the German Bf 109F series becoming more and more prominent, most of the Axis aircraft were older types such as the Bf 109E or italian C.200s which the Kittyhawk was more than a match for, scoring Hundreds of aerial kills during its time in North Africa.

The Kittyhawks would also find themselves in other Commonwealth Forces as well, with Canada, Australia and South Africa all using the aircraft in large numbers especially after more modern aircraft began to replace the Kittyhawks in RAF squadron service. In Australian service they found themselves deployed to the Far east such as New guinea where they proved effective at repelling the Japanese forces trying to advance in that area.

Images

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A crashed Kittyhawk Mk.IA found in Egypt

A Kittyhawk Mk.IA in US markings on display

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A Kittyhawk Mk.IA in flight above the English Countryside

A restored Kittyhawk Mk.IA in markings of No.3 Sqn RAAF

Specs/Armament

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General characteristics

Crew: One
Length: 31 ft 8.5 in (9.665 m)
Wingspan: 37 ft 3.5 in (11.367 m)
Height: 10 ft 8 in (3.25 m)
Wing area: 236 sq ft (21.9 m2)
Airfoil: root: NACA2215; tip :NACA2209
Empty weight: 5,922 lb (2,686 kg)
Gross weight: 8,515 lb (3,862 kg)
Powerplant: 1 × Allison V-1710-39 V-12 liquid-cooled piston engine, 1,240 hp (920 kW)
Propellers: 3-bladed Curtiss-Wright electric constant-speed propeller

Performance

Maximum speed: 361 mph (581 km/h, 314 kn) at 15,000 ft (4,600 m)
Cruise speed: 308 mph (496 km/h, 268 kn)
Range: 716 mi (1,152 km, 622 nmi) at 70% power
Service ceiling: 29,100 ft (8,900 m)
Time to altitude: 15,000 ft (4,600 m) in 6 minutes 15 seconds
Wing loading: 35.1 lb/sq ft (171 kg/m2)
Power/mass: 0.14 hp/lb (0.23 kW/kg)

Armament

Guns:

  • 6 × 12.7mm (.50 cal) M2 Browning machine guns in the wings

Bombs (Total bombload: 2000 lbs):

  • up to a 1000 lbs bomb under the fuselage, or 2 x 500 lbs

  • up to 2 x 500 lbs under each wing

Place in game

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I feel this would potentially be a good addition to the game to bring a bit of diversity to the lower ranks of the British Tech Tree as it currently focuses mainly on the Turnfighting playstyle around those BRs, whereas the Kittyhawks would be High performance Boom and Zoom fighters giving something different to the players of the UK Tree

This variant would also be one of the easiest to add due to the fact that it would be a reskin of the US P-40E already in game, with a few minor differences such as British Bombs to make it a bit more Unique.

Sources

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Curtiss P-40 Warhawk - Wikipedia
Curtiss P-40 Warhawk variants - Wikipedia
Curtiss Kittyhawk
Kittyhawk MK I, Special Hobby 1/72 (RFI). - Ready for Inspection - Aircraft - Britmodeller.com
Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk IA in flight | World War Photos

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+1

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A +1 from me, more P-40s are always a good thing

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My reaction to seeing P-40 suggestion

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+1 among a number of ww2 props that I’m shocked are not on the UK tree yet

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Yeah. I think it’s just because people are gonna complain it’s copy and paste, and they already have a C&P P-51

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The P-51 in the British tree shouldn’t be premium either, but it is, so chances are this one would be as well

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Yeah 😞

And the skins for the 51 are so nice too 😭

THEY ARE. If they add the Kittyhawk Mk ia I hope for an RNZAF skin that would rock it

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I can understand when it comes to lend lease people not liking these aircraft in the british (or any other allied nations) tree as they technically werent bought.

However first of all, Not all Kittyhawks, Tomahawks, Mustangs and many others were lend lease instead actually ordered/bought for the british, and in cases like the Mustang, the British actually used the aircraft BEFORE the americans (the airframes trialed by the USAAF were diverted from the british order of mustang MK.Is)

And second of all, these aircraft were used in such massive numbers that it makes sense to be in the tech tree, these aircraft played just as big of a role as the spitfire or Hurricanes did just in North Africa, and its safe to say that these aircraft were essential in winning the air war over North Africa (Just as the sherman, Lee and stuart were essential on the Ground)

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The funny thing is that is already in game, both British, Australian and NZ Kittyhawks exist in game as skins of the US P-40E, and in fact the US variant just so happens to be the exact variant of the P-40E (the E-1) that was supplied through lend lease so this would be the most litteral case of Copy and paste ever as everything is already in game, the Model and the skins

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that’s my bad, while I do love the P-40 I don’t play America enough to realize that.

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Nah no worries, I only realised when i took the US P-40 out for a spin when i was making this suggestion in order to get a grip of how it would perform

Im honestly surprised gaijin didnt add it when they first added the UK tree considering everything was already in place for it, hell the skins even specify that they are “Kittyhawk Mk.IAs” in the description

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Gaijin just hates Britain, there’s so much more they could add, like the turret fighters, Manchester, an event Beaufighter with Artemis air to air missiles etc

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Yeah, my bet is that they originally planned to add it to the UK tree but either forgot, didnt have time, or decided there wasnt much space for it (Although i could easily make space simply by foldering the Spit Mk.IIB with the Mk.VBs and moving the Hurricanes over behind the early spits, but hey it is what it is)

Well objectively it’s stronger than every other low tier British fighter (I can say it is, I main Britain) so I think Gaijin just didn’t want them to have a strong fighter, especially with CAS loadout which - newsflash - any other competent British fighter at that BR lacks.

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“Watch how he killed an entire team in 1 pass, Ground mains hate him!”

Fr tho man, I just hope we can get it in game fairly soon, I would love to see the whole curtiss line added at some point, starting with the Mohawk and ending with this (im currently bamboozled by the rest of the Kittyhawk variants and trying to figure them out) and if you havent been able to tell already I have a bit of a soft spot for the Curtiss aircraft

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I’m at a bit of a mixed point here to be honest, I hate all copy pasta aircraft and tanks, and believe that they should be unique to the tree they came from, but… I do think that if it was used EXTENSIVELY then maybe…? I’m not too sure to be honest…

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Meh, even if you dont want this we can still get the Mohawk IV (its different because it has 7.7 browning instead of the 7.5 french stuff, and both or at least the british should have bombs), The Tomahawk (All of them had 7.7s intead of 7.62s in the wing, and the Mk.I had two more than the american equivalent.

Also arguably the Kittyhawk Mk.I as we ordered it instead of lend lease and modified it with the 6 gun wing, so it would be a P-40D with 6 guns instead of 4 (although that is essentially just a P-40E like this)

Isn’t the Tomahawk an earlier P-40? Sorry if I got this wrong… but I would absolutely adore this aircraft, maybe 2.0?