[Curiosity poll] should the Tornado F3 get Aim-120C5

IRL. The C5 should physically burn for 5 seconds longer, pull 5 more G, have 0 guidance delay and have a much better guidance system to make it far more energy effecient.

It should have both increased range (about 40% more ish) and more importantly should be more potent in WVR combat

BOL fixes alone wouldn’t push any of the F.3s up in BR, it still is an objectively bad plane for the current WT gameplay.
Also, if BOL fixes were a justification for the F.3 to move up, what about the Gripen, Harriers, strike Tornados and whatever else planes that carry BOL?

Keep the current F.3 late the way it is then. It’s fine at 13.0 as is, especially compared to the Sea Harrier FA.2.

Wasn’t it C7/C8 that were actual range improvements, as previous C family were aimed at fixing HOBS performance?

Some would move. Some wouldnt.

But the end result would be healthier for everyone

C-5 introduced the new rocket motor and improved the HOBS performance

Going by Modern ARH (FOX 3) Missile - History, Performance & Discussion

as a good reference

C7/8 did get more upgrades

I support the Tornado getting C5… if the F-4F also gets C5

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The Typhoons, Gripens and F-14B shouldn’t move up, but the Tornado F.3 should?
Absolute insanity

Sure, though where the F3 can also get 432 large calibre chaff to help it in addition to its 320 BOL flares. The ICE can’t. So may struggle far more at 13.7

I think the F3 would do just fine at 12.3 with BOL fixed and maybe also 1x Phimat. Decompression has to start somewhere.

Also, didnt say the Typhoon and Gripens shoudlnt move, only shouldnt pre-emptively move.

F-14B does have some of the weakest ARH and IR missiles of the BR. So would need other upgrades to justify moving

The F-14B is an upgrade over the IRIAF in most aspects, it getting much more effective CMs should put it at a higher BR than the IRIAF.
If the F.3 should move pre-emptively, then what is stopping the Typhoons and Gripens from moving up pre-emptively? They already are way better planes to boot and (the Gripens at least) carry a huge amount of CMs as well.

Yeah, that start would be raising the max BR and moving vehicles up in BR accordingly. Better countermeasures don’t really serve decompression, especially not if the well performing planes that get these CMs don’t go up in BR.

Gripen A has no ARH, and so shouldnt really be at 13.3 with no ARH. But could loose 2x BOL as stated

Gripen C is still far weaker than even a few 13.7s these days and is definetly much weaker than the Typhoon and Rafale

Typhoon could move up, but should only do so with the Rafale, Su-30 and F-15E.

All of these planes are at their respective BRs because of their current performance relative to their competition (that means both above and below their BR), if you buff them they should go up in BR.

If BOL fixes are enough to put a Tornado F.3 late to 13.3, then those fixes also are enough to put a Gripen A to 13.3, a Gripen C to 14.0 and a Typhoon to 14.3.

You don’t need ARHs to compete with other top tier planes, SARH and IR are enough, especially when you play like the majority of people and don’t BVR to begin with.