my best guess for the 20g max is they looked at ty-90 and saw same fin design (which should be pulling more) so went with it
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No, Some of the 30mm models have a cylindrical cover over the barrel that makes it look longer. The actual gun is stubby like in the model. There’s like a bunch different CS/SA5 models and they aren’t very well documented. Some have 25mm no missiles, 30mm with manpads, 30mm with FB-10A, etc.
The missile’s design is literally the HQ-10 but without the passive radar homing seekers and a booster. The HQ-10s max overload is 20g.
Also, statcard overload is completely meaningless (Just like everything else on the statcard). The actual overload it will do is determined by a bunch of other things like fin AOA, PID, and wing area. The missiles will pull far more than 9Js even though they are both 20g on the statcard.
bias. Players spent hours to write these issues and what gaijin has done is simply add tags to reject.
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It can only be said that the design direction of the FB10A missile is more similar to that of the American RIM116 B2, but now the development team obviously does not really think so
As far as the performance of CS/SA5 in the current test server is concerned, as a 12.0 air defense, it is still too humorous
Gaijin usually always gimps chinese vehicles up
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Yeah, and nothing about this kind of behavior surprises me anymore
They are not called CS/SA-5. They are all called type 625 because CS/SA-5 is then specifically the PLA version.
It said >20G but same thing to Gaijin.
It does perform fine with Gs but don’t expect it to turn anything very well, no off bore shots.
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No, Some of the 30mm models have a cylindrical cover over the barrel that makes it look longer
That’s allegedly the flash suppressor and it DOES count to barrel length if its a permanent attachment (which it does seem to be), hence people referring it as the “long 30mm”.
Here is a short 25mm of the Type 625 as an example
There’s like a bunch different CS/SA5 models and they aren’t very well documented. Some have 25mm no missiles, 30mm with manpads, 30mm with FB-10A
Those are the early production batches of the Type 625 or CS/SA5, the later models all have the FB-10/A iirc.
It is not “long 30mm”. It is flash suppressor
I don’t think so. Was photo where it just… Cylinder. Nothing more. It cannot participate in the process of projectile acceleration, so it cannot be called a continuation of the barrel.
God forbid someone reads my entire message without cutting parts relevant, I said that the flash suppressor DOES count to barrel length if its a permanent attachment and it does seem to be one.
“If a flash suppressor is permanently attached (e.g., pinned and welded), it does count towards the overall barrel length”
It is not “long 30mm”. It is flash suppressor
I LITERALLY said this, absolutely no need to repeat after me, are you some sort of children’s toy with a voice recorder?
Yes.
Is this some kind of rule from Gaijin or what?
Is this some kind of rule from Gaijin or what?
Real life, shocking I know 🤯🤯🤯
Lets not go off topic anyways
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It isn’t. There is a clear detachable mechanism on the ones without.
Also 30mm CS/SA5s are still called 625Es.
Identical to CSSA5 in game. 30mm, short cannon.
There is a distinction, 625 E was never accepted into PLA service, only 25mm CS/SA-5 with HN6B were accepted into service. Therefore there is no such thing as early or late as they are all basically prototypes and are independent to each other, developed for different customers.
Spoiler
As seen 25mm have different sides.
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It isn’t. There is a clear detachable mechanism on the ones without
There isn’t a “clear” detachable mechanism, whether there is one or not I’m not sure but it definitely isn’t a clear one.
Also 30mm CS/SA5s are still called 625Es
Bug report this with secondary or primary sources if this is the case, for simplicity sake I’ll still refer to it as the CS/SA5 until its corrected in-game.
There is a distinction, 625 E was never accepted into PLA service, only 25mm CS/SA-5 with HN6B were accepted into service. Therefore there is no such thing as early or late as they are all basically prototypes and are independent to each other
The definition of “early” or “late” in the sense of military usually refers to the year the variant of said vehicles was produced and the cycle in which its produced, multiple variants can fall into this “early” or “late” category and doesn’t discriminate between prototypes and actual production batches - I could’ve worded it better but it isn’t technically wrong.
Most of the information you’ve given to me is news anyways and I do appreciate it such as the Type 625E never entering service and so on.
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China does do this a lot; for example the HQ-17 with the PESA array and M1 search antennae, the varying performance of PL-12, and the use of PL-5EII on many of the late 3rd gen jets.
I personally think they should have done the 625E instead of the 30mm since its capabilities are far more documented.
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I trust what BVVD said, it will be comparable to pantsir when finished.
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pantsir have 12 missiles that reach mach 3.7 in less than 3 seconds as u can clearly see in the video attached to the post or if u go and test it out yourself, with how slow the missile is and how it cant reach it max range properly with awful g pull, it will be just good at best
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