Complete Guide to Picking Ammo Belts (Moved to the new forum)

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Moving the ammo belts guide to the new forum. (Old: Complete Guide to Picking Ammo Belts (Updated May 2023) - Air Force Academy - War Thunder - Official Forum)

The list is ordered by nation of design. So as an example if you’re playing as Britain and you want to find the GAU-4 for your Phantom, it’s under the US.

Guns marked as “(turret only)” are available only as defensive armament/on turrets of bombers and/or attackers.

Hold CTRL then press F to search for the gun you want.

FRA:

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7.5mm MAC 1934: Universal

7.5mm MAC 1934 (turret): Armored Targets

7.5mm Mle 33: Universal

7.5mm Mle 33 (turret): Armored Targets

7.5mm Mle 1923: Universal

7.5mm Mle 1923 (turret): AP-T

7.5mm Darne 1933: Universal

7.5mm Fabrique Nationale Mle 38: Universal

20mm Hispano HS.9: Universal

20mm Hispano 404: Universal

20mm Hispano 404 (turret): Universal

20mm M50: Air Targets

30mm DEFA (all variants): Air Targets

IT:

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7.7mm Breda-SAFAT: Universal

7.7mm Breda-SAFAT (turret): Universal

12.7mm Breda-SAFAT: Air Targets

12.7mm Breda-SAFAT (turret): Universal

12.7mm Scotti (turret only): Universal

30mm Hispano HS 825: Air Targets

102mm 102/35 mod 14: Ground Targets (enemy aircraft)/Armored Targets (ground targets)

JP:

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7.7mm type 89: Universal

7.7mm type 89 ‘special’ (turret): Armored Targets

7.7mm type 89 (turret): Armored Targets

7.7mm type 92 (turret only): Armored Targets

7.7mm type 97: Universal

7.7mm type 97 (turret): Armored Targets

7.7mm Te-1 (turret only): Universal

7.92mm type 98 (turret only): Armored Targets

12.7mm Ho-103: Air Targets

12.7mm Ho-104 (turret only): Universal

13mm type 2 (turret only): Universal

13.2mm type 3: Ground Targets

20mm type 99 mk I: Universal

20mm type 99 mk I (turret): Air Targets

20mm type 99 mk II: Universal

20mm type 99-II mk. 5(turret only): Air Targets

20mm Ho-1 (turret only): Air Targets

20mm Ho-3: Universal

20mm Ho-5: Universal

20mm Ho-5 (turret): Air Targets

20mm JM61A1: Air Targets

30mm type 5: Tracers

30mm Ho-155: Tracers

37mm type 94: Default

37mm Ho-203: Default

40mm Ho-301: Default

57mm Ho-401: Default:

75mm Type 88: Ground Targets (enemy aircraft)/Armored Targets ground targets)

GB:

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7.7mm Vickers E: Universal

7.7mm Vickers K (turret only): Universal

7.7mm Browning: Universal

7.7mm Browning (turret): Universal

(British) 12.7mm M2 Browning (turret only): Universal

20mm Hispano Mk.I: Stealth

20mm Hispano Mk.II: Air Targets

20mm Hispano Mk.V (turret): Universal

20mm Hispano Mk.V: Air Targets

25mm ADEN: Air Targets

30mm ADEN: Air Targets

40mm Vickers S: Air Targets (enemy aircraft)/Armored Targets (ground targets)

47mm Vickers P: Default

57mm Molin Class M: Default

USSR:

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7.62mm PV-1: Universal

7.62mm DA (turret only, on TB-3): Universal

7.62mm ShKAS: Universal

7.62mm ShKAS (turret): Universal

12.7mm UB Berezin: Air Targets

12.7mm UB Berezin (turret): Universal

20mm ShVAK: Universal/Tracers (stealth can work for sneak attacks, but it’s weaker in damage output) (FI-T is the best round for Russian 20mms)

20mm ShVAK (turret): Air Targets

20mm B-20M: Universal/Tracers (stealth can work for sneak attacks, but it’s weaker in damage output)

20mm B-20S: Universal/Tracers (stealth can work for sneak attacks, but it’s weaker in damage output)

20mm B-20E (turret only): Air Targets

23mm VYa-23: Universal

23mm NS-23: Air Targets

23mm NS-23K: Air Targets

23mm NR-23: Air Targets

23mm NR-23 (turret): FI-T

23mm GSh-23L: Air Targets

30mm NR-30: Air Targets / Ground Targets

30mm GSh-30-1: Air Targets

30mm GSh-6-30: Air Targets (aircraft), Ground Targets (tanks)

37mm NS-37: Air Targets

37mm N-37: Air Targets

37mm N-37D: Air Targets

45mm NS-45: Air Targets/Armored Targets (Air or Ground RB)

GER:

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7.92mm MG 15: Universal/Stealth

7.92mm MG 15 (turret): APT

7.92mm MG 17: Universal/Stealth

7.92mm MG 17 (turret): AP-T

7.92mm MG 81: Universal/Stealth

7.92mm MG 81 (turret): AP-T

13mm MG 131: IAI/Stealth

13mm MG 131 (turret): Default

15mm MG 151: Air Targets

20mm MG C/30L: HEFI-T

20mm MG FF: Air Targets

20mm MG FF (turret): Universal

20mm MG FF/M: Air Targets

20mm MG 151: Air Targets/Stealth

20mm MG 151 (turret): Universal

27mm Mauser BK27: Air Targets (they work for both air and ground units)

30mm MK 108: Universal/Stealth

30mm MK 103: Air Targets (enemy aircraft)/Armored Targets (ground targets)

37mm BK 3,7: Air Targets (enemy aircraft)/Armored Targets (ground targets)

50mm BK 5: Air Targets (enemy aircraft)/Armored Targets (HVAP-T) (ground targets)

50mm Mk.241a: Air Targets (enemy aircraft)/Armored Targets (HVAP-T) (ground targets)

75mm BK 7,5: Air Targets (enemy aircraft)/Amored Targets (HVAP-T) (ground targets)

USA:

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7.62mm Browning: Universal/Stealth

7.62mm Browning (turret): Armored Targets

7.7mm Lewis (turret only, found on the Italian S.81): Universal

12.7mm M2 Browning (early war): Ground Targets/Stealth

12.7mm M2 Browning (mid+late war): Universal/Stealth

12.7mm M2 Browning (turret): Universal

12.7mm M3 Browning: Universal/Stealth

20mm T31: Air Targets/Stealth

20mm AN/M2: Air Targets/Stealth

20mm AN/M3: Air Targets/Stealth

20mm Browning-Colt Mk 12 Mod 3: Air Targets

20mm Mk 11 mod 5 (gunpod): Air Targets

20mm T-160: Air Targets

20mm M24A1: Air Targets

20mm M39A1: Air Targets

20mm M61A1 / GAU-4: Air Targets

30mm GAU-8/A: Ground Targets

37mm M4: Ground Targets

37mm M10: Ground Targets

75mm T13E1: Ground Targets (enemy aircraft)/Armored Targets (ground targets)

75mm M10: Ground Targets (enemy aircraft)/Armored Targets (ground targets)

SWE:

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8mm Ksp m/22: Air Targets/Stealth

8mm Ksp m/22 Fh: Air Targets/Stealth

8mm Ksp m/22 Fv: Air Targets/Stealth

8mm Ksp m/22-37 R (turret): AP-T

12.7mm Akan m/39A: Universal/Stealth

12.7mm Akan m/40: Air Targets/Stealth

12.7mm Akan m/45: Universal/Stealth

12.7mm LKk/42: Air Targets/Stealth

13.2mm Akan m/39: Air Targets/Stealth

13.2mm Akan m/39A: Air Targets/Stealth

13.2mm Akan m/39 (turret): Universal

20mm Akan m/41A: Air Targets

20mm Akan m/45: Air Targets

20mm Akan m/47B: Air Targets

20mm Akan m/47C: Air Targets

20mm Akan m/49: Air Targets

30mm Akan m/55: Air Targets
30mm Akan m/75: Air Targets

57mm Akan m/45: Ground Targets

If I have missed anything while transferring the thread here, let me know!

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I always felt the italian 12.7 breda-safat mgs felt weak or unreliable for some reason

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You’re absolutely correct, they’re bad for as long as anyone can remember, even before the Italian tree was added.

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I know this post is old.
But why take HVAP on the German 50mm guns if you have APHE with ~100mm of pen.
Seems to me like you just loose out on a lot of post pen damage.

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APHE with 100mm of pen? Am I missing new information or something?

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Pulk has 106mm pen on APHE if i remember correct without checking, and that since its ingame, never changed, so he is not wrong. Anyone using HVAP on that gun is missing its potential by a mile.

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Both the 50mm Me410s and Me262 have APHE.
It’s just more of Gaijin’s stat card misinformation.

All the 50mm guns have identical round performance, so I listed just the one from the Me262.
Ur basically a flying Pz.III
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I always use air targets when I can, universal when I can’t. I find that ammo with more variety is generally better, incendiaries and high explosive fragmentation shells are great against early wooden planes

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I am not sure how it was when this post was made, but German MG FF (no minen) is absolutely go with stealth belt (APHE). It’s only belt with majority HE. Fragmentations do not work with German 20mms currently.