Vehicle : VCC-80/60
Nation : italy
Lineup : 9_2
Issue : Playable once. There are many other light tanks in 10_2 with the same BR of 9.0, but not this…
Solution : Add to 10_2
Vehicle : ELC bis
Nation : France
Lineup : 6_1
Issue : Playable once. There are 7 other light tanks in 5_1 with the same BR of 6.0, but not this…
Solution : Add to 5_1
Vehicle : R400
Nation : Germany
Lineup : none
Issue :
Solution : Add to 10_2
Vehicle : ZSD63/PG87
Nation : China
Lineup : ??
Issue : Another bizzare ommision. You can play both the SPAA before it in 8_2 AND after it, but not this vehicle.
Solution : Add to 8_2
Vehicle : ADATS
Nation : UK
Lineup : 11_2
Issue : Compare the UK ADATS to the Tungska. no gun vs 4 x 30mm guns. 8 x 10km missiles on both. NATO lacks a comparable SPAA in 10_2 compared to the 256, Roland 3s are only effective up to 8km and SPAA that use them have no gun.
I have no idea why this is 11.7 and the 256 is 10.7…
Solution : Add to 10_2
Vehicle : Tigre HAD-E
Nation : Germany
Lineup : 11_2
Issue : 8 Hellfires and 4 Mistrals?? in 11_2 ONLY? The A129CBT / T129 / G-Lynx has the same in 10_2
Solution : Add to 10_2
Vehicle : CRV Block 2
Nation : UK
Lineup : none
Issue :
Solution : Add to 10_2
Vehicle : BMPT / 72
Nation : USSR
Lineup : 10_2
Issue : These probably shouldn’t be in 10_2 but they’re also very good at higher tiers.
Solution : Add to 11_2
Vehicle : MB-326B
Nation : Italy
Lineup : 6_1 and 9_2
Issue : At 6.3 in sim this puts this as the ONLY jet in allies/axis games… and then bizarrely you can’t play this in 8_2 (which has no other jets) or 8_2_2, where it really belongs… instead it’s in 9_2 facing vehicles 3.3 BRs higher…
If anything demonstrates Gaijins lack of consistency in playing vehicles in ground sim it must be this… it’s simultaneously OVER tiers AND UNDER tiered in sim.
Solution : Probably change BR to 6.7 and add to 8_2_2.
My brother in christ, Either you wrote 9_2 by mistake or you have no idea what you’re even talking about.
fixed… (a PM would have been better :p)
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I’ve been meaning to create a thread to talk about the brackets, because in my complete honest opinion, we need a decompression in ground sim, rather than additions to the current brackets.
We’ve been stuck with these brackets for so long and we’ve been adding more and more stuff to them, to the point of utterly bloating them and making so many vehicles irrelevant.
We need brackets in between these brackets so that some tanks can stay relevant, so that you don’t just play “meta” vehicles of the bracket all the time. For example, no one in the right might would play something like a AMX-32 in the 10_2 bracket when you have the MSC and Dutch Leopard 2, and you’re only allowed to play the AMX-32 in the 10_2 bracket. I still have no idea why they’re not allowed in 9_2, even the 105mm variant.
Brackets need an entire overhaul and decompression, not additions. This will also encourage players who do not have meta vehicles of the brackets to be relevant in the matches. Like honestly who in the right mind would play a T-72A in 10_2 when you have the option to play the T-90A or T-80B? And T-72A is only available in 10_2. Who in the right mind would play the KPz-70 or MBT-70 when you have Leopard 2/2K or Abrams? This just doesn’t make sense.
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so make one…
Vehicle : UH-1B
Nation : USA
Lineup : 9_2
Issue : The UH-1C is in this lineup but not the B? WHY?
Solution : Add to 10_2
10_2 is basically unwinnable for NATO now…
Maybe the BMPT shouldn’t be in the lineup after all…
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Vehicle: Swiss F5E
Nation: Germany
Lineup: none
Issue: Missing in any sim lineup
Solution: Add it to 10_2 just like any other F5E
This is literally insane… It is so sad that Gaijin has abandoned this gamemode
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4_1 is kind of weird because it has lots of rank 2 vehicles, mostly rank 3 vehicles and plenty of rank 4 vehicles, but it stops at 6.0 for medium/heavy tanks. If this was the actual rule then there are at least another dozen 6.0 tanks that I haven’t counted.
However, it really should contain ALL rank 3 vehicles, which it doesn’t.
Note : some of these will be duped above, but I just wanted a count.
USA
Rank 3 : 4
Rank 4 : 10
Germany
Rank 3 : Waffentrager
Rank 4 : 11 (but all heavy 6-6.7 tanks so don’t count)
Russia
Rank 3 : 6
Rank 4 : 8 (but all heavy 6-6.7 tanks so don’t count)
UK
Rank 3 : Churchill and Challenger
Rank 4 :
Japan
Rank 3 : 3
Rank 4 :
China
Rank 3 : 5 (4.0 - 5.3)
Rank 4 :
Italy
Rank 3 : 5
Rank 4 :
France
Rank 3 :
Rank 4 :
Sweden
Rank 3 : 6
Rank 4 : 2
Israel
Total
Rank 3 : 32
Rank 4 : 12
New patch moved T72B3 arena in to 10_2 and 11_2 and moved BMPTs to 11_2 exclusive. Great job… BUT why T72B3 in 10_2 while no M1A2 or Leopard A5 / A6… Russia have now two superbly armored MBTs with BM60 darts, several T80 and OBJ 292…Its time to revamp this lineup and add similiar vehicles to NATO like M1A2, LEO A5 and more Challenger 2s. Also there is still missing F5E in swiss (germany) TT without any reason.