Vehicle : MIG-23MXX x2
Nation : Germany
Lineup : 11_2
Issue : The MIG-27K and M are in 10_2, why not the Mig-23Ms?
Solution : Add to 10_2
2_1 has ground vehicles ranging from 1.0 to 4.7 but in general should contain EVERY rank 1 vehicle and every rank 2 vehicle. There may be exceptions but it has several Rank 3 vehicles so this is reasonable. The Sd.Kfz.251/21 would be rather potent at 2_1 but M16s on either side can also fire a huge rate of rounds too, and they’re in 2_1.
Rather than list all missing vehicles I will simply give the number of tech tree vehicles in Rank 1 & 2 that I cannot play by nation. This should demonstrate the size of the issue which would be quickly fixed by just adding ALL rank 1 vehicles and most rank 2s…
USA
Rank 1 : 3
Rank 2 : 6
Germany
Rank 1 : 15
Rank 2 : 4
Russia
Rank 1 : 11
Rank 2 : 10
UK
Rank 1 : 7
Rank 2 : 5
Japan
Rank 1 : 6 (all of them)
Rank 2 : 1
China
Rank 1 : 4
Rank 2 : 3
Italy
Rank 1 : 4
Rank 2 : 3
France
Rank 1 : 5
Rank 2 : 3
Sweden
Rank 1 : 8
Rank 2 : 1
Total
Rank 1 : 63
Rank 2 : 36
So 99+ vehicles that could be played but are locked away… I am missing 25 rank 1 and 2 vehicles so this number will be higher. With premium and even vehicles even more so.
This is 2_1… if you can’t play rank 2 vehicles here, it seems very strange.
China does not have a stingray lol
fixed… thanks
Vehicle: TOR-M1
Nation: China
Lineup: 11_2
Issue: Not comparable to any other SPAA of the bracket except ADATS. Also China is missing a good SPAA for the 10_2 Bracket
Solution: moving it down with ADATS 1 bracket lower
Vehicle : ZA-35
Nation : UK
Lineup : 9_2
Issue : Once every 5 days isn’t much for this great capper/flanker.
Solution : Add to 10_2
Vehicle : MB-326K
Nation : Italy
Lineup : None
Issue : New patch, GSM forgotten again :(
Solution : Add to 8_2_2 and 9_2
Vehicle : Golden Eagle
Nation :
Lineup : (that the vehicle is currently in)
Issue :
Solution :
Vehicle : AH-56A
Nation :
Lineup : (that the vehicle is currently in)
Issue :
Solution :
6_1 has vehicles from 3.3 to 8.0, which means MOST rank V should be playable and ALL of Rank IV.
Missing vehicles by rank
USA
Rank 4 : 6
Rank 5 : 5
Germany
Rank 4 : 3
Rank 5 : 8
Russia
Rank 4 : 2
Rank 5 : 9
UK
Rank 4 : 3
Rank 5 : 3
Japan
Rank 4 : 2
Rank 5 : 5
China
Rank 4 : 5
Rank 5 : 5
Italy
Rank 4 : 5
Rank 5 : 8
France
Not enough vehicles
Sweden
Rank 4 : 6
Rank 5 : 1
Israel
Rank 4: 4
Rank 5: Not enough vehicles
Total
Rank 4 : 36+
Rank 5 : 44+
Again, I have gaps so the numbers will be higher… Rank V vehicles top out at 8.3 and there are probably good reasons for not including some of them in 6_1 but ALL 36+ Rank IVs should be playable and added.
‘well, 6_1 is the WW2 sim game, we don’t want modern vehicles’…
They added the 8.0 Fox… this is no reason…
Exactly, 6_1 is late war scenario. This bracked would need removal or several vehicles like Italian Pershing etc.
GSB is not ASB a lot of vehicles you are listing as missing simply do not belong to that bracket.
No, it’s Axis countries vs “Allies” up to 8.0 tanks and 6.3 planes, so Rank IV.
War? I don’t remember Israel in the second world war… tell me again when it was formed?
Fox? Weisel? Strikemaster Jet?
5_1 is mid to late war, and it ALSO has Israel in it!
Stop this quest for an accurate WW2 lineup, it won’t happen… just put the missing Rank 4 tanks in 6_2.
1_1 demonstrates perfectly that ground sim is missing vehicles for no reason. It should have EVERY rank 1 vehicle, and yet it doesn’t. It does have several Rank 2 vehicles. Of course you can argue that some SPAA are too OP for the match, but why does Germany get the baby Puma and the M22 is not allowed?
USA
M22
M15 CGMC
Germany
Flakpanzer 38
Sd Kfz 6/2
(GAZ-MM (72-K) is allowed)
Russia
Garford*
China
SU-76M (2.0)
Sweden
Sav m/43 (1944)
At least 7 more vehicles… and there will be many more if you include premiums and event vehicles, I also have many that I just can’t be bothered to unlock.
- The only vehicle I could be bothered to unlock from the WW1 event, I assume the others were also missing.
As I said many vehicles should be removed… with your proposals you are just turning it into 1st person marker less RB with different spawn system.
I believe that SIM folks desire for something else. Gaijin has huge collection of vehicles which would allow to create many very interesting scenarios (brackets) from very historic ones, themed to alternate history one. Those themed setups is something what made Arma/Operation flashpoint so popular and successful.
Gaijin is wasting that potential on roughly same BR team death match. Also Gaijins practice to take some support vehicle and drop it down till is can fight tanks is really unhealthy for SIM.
SIM needs to drop the rule where every vehicle needs to be in some bracket, and start creating meaning full setups with some background tied to maps with relevant environment (like Africa corps on a desert maps).
Removal of identical vehicles, land leased, captured or sub tree is also highly desirable.
If it were up to me rule set for Themed setup would look like this:
- All vehicles from the same technological era
- Vehicles should have been in a service at a time
- Prototypes, land leased, captured sub tree vehicles should be included only for filing serious capability gaps
- All participating nations should have similar capabilities in MBT, CAS, Light/Recon vehicles etc.
- Maps rotation should be adjusted for the theme.
But go ahead and continue building big pile of vehicles fighting meaningless death match. From my perspective when tried ASB 10.xx where 6x F4 were circling each other figuring our which is German and which is US was huge disappointment for me and I do not wish GSB end up the same.
That’s great… how about you add that as a suggestion here and I continue to try to get Gaijin to allow me to play my Type 16 more than 1 day in 5… or do I need to unlock another identical tank for day 2?
Or continue to play my Marders in the incorrect lineups because no one points out the obvious error…
Or wonder why I can’t play my M22 in 1_1…
or 200 more weird inconsistencies.
and you know what, I’d love to see your ‘themed setup’…
but how about we face reality… I have about a 2% chance of getting someone to expand the lineups to fix problems…
You have a 0.000001% chance of what you propose…
How about we discuss it in… your own thread :p