Compilation of 287+ missing vehicles in Ground Sim

Game Discussion Simulator Battle
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Vehicle : MB-326K
Nation : Italy
Lineup : 9_2
Issue : A 7.0 strike plane facing 9.0 supersonic fighters and IR missiles? Put it in 8_2_2 with the other 8.0 strikers…
Solution : Add to 8_2_2

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Vehicle : Golden Eagle
Nation :
Lineup : (that the vehicle is currently in)
Issue :
Solution :

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Vehicle : AH-56A
Nation : USA
Lineup : None
Issue : Not added
Solution : Add to 10_2

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6_1 has vehicles from 3.3 to 8.0, which means MOST rank V should be playable and ALL of Rank IV.

Missing vehicles by rank

USA
Rank 4 : 6
Rank 5 : 5

Germany
Rank 4 : 3
Rank 5 : 8

Russia
Rank 4 : 2
Rank 5 : 9

UK
Rank 4 : 3
Rank 5 : 3

Japan
Rank 4 : 2
Rank 5 : 5

China
Rank 4 : 5
Rank 5 : 5

Italy
Rank 4 : 5
Rank 5 : 8

France
Not enough vehicles

Sweden
Rank 4 : 6
Rank 5 : 1

Israel
Rank 4: 4
Rank 5: Not enough vehicles

Total
Rank 4 : 36+
Rank 5 : 44+

Again, I have gaps so the numbers will be higher… Rank V vehicles top out at 8.3 and there are probably good reasons for not including some of them in 6_1 but ALL 36+ Rank IVs should be playable and added.

‘well, 6_1 is the WW2 sim game, we don’t want modern vehicles’…

They added the 8.0 Fox… this is no reason…

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Exactly, 6_1 is late war scenario. This bracked would need removal or several vehicles like Italian Pershing etc.

GSB is not ASB a lot of vehicles you are listing as missing simply do not belong to that bracket.

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No, it’s Axis countries vs “Allies” up to 8.0 tanks and 6.3 planes, so Rank IV.

War? I don’t remember Israel in the second world war… tell me again when it was formed?

Fox? Weisel? Strikemaster Jet?

5_1 is mid to late war, and it ALSO has Israel in it!

Stop this quest for an accurate WW2 lineup, it won’t happen… just put the missing Rank 4 tanks in 6_2.

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1_1 demonstrates perfectly that ground sim is missing vehicles for no reason. It should have EVERY rank 1 vehicle, and yet it doesn’t. It does have several Rank 2 vehicles. Of course you can argue that some SPAA are too OP for the match, but why does Germany get the 3.7 baby Puma and the 2.0 M22 is not allowed?

USA
M22
M15 CGMC

Germany
Flakpanzer 38
Sd Kfz 6/2
(GAZ-MM (72-K) is allowed)

Russia
Garford*

China
SU-76M (2.0)

Sweden
Sav m/43 (1944)

At least 7 more vehicles… and there will be many more if you include premiums and event vehicles, I also have many that I just can’t be bothered to unlock.

  • The only vehicle I could be bothered to unlock from the WW1 event, I assume the others were also missing.
St-Chamond Medium tank I
A7V Medium tank I
Beutepanzer IV Medium tank I
Garford-Beute Light tank I
Mark V Medium tank I
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As I said many vehicles should be removed… with your proposals you are just turning it into 1st person marker less RB with different spawn system.
I believe that SIM folks desire for something else. Gaijin has huge collection of vehicles which would allow to create many very interesting scenarios (brackets) from very historic ones, themed to alternate history one. Those themed setups is something what made Arma/Operation flashpoint so popular and successful.

Gaijin is wasting that potential on roughly same BR team death match. Also Gaijins practice to take some support vehicle and drop it down till is can fight tanks is really unhealthy for SIM.

SIM needs to drop the rule where every vehicle needs to be in some bracket, and start creating meaning full setups with some background tied to maps with relevant environment (like Africa corps on a desert maps).
Removal of identical vehicles, land leased, captured or sub tree is also highly desirable.

If it were up to me rule set for Themed setup would look like this:

  • All vehicles from the same technological era
  • Vehicles should have been in a service at a time
  • Prototypes, land leased, captured sub tree vehicles should be included only for filing serious capability gaps
  • All participating nations should have similar capabilities in MBT, CAS, Light/Recon vehicles etc.
  • Maps rotation should be adjusted for the theme.

But go ahead and continue building big pile of vehicles fighting meaningless death match. From my perspective when tried ASB 10.xx where 6x F4 were circling each other figuring our which is German and which is US was huge disappointment for me and I do not wish GSB end up the same.

EDIT: False flagging is against the rules, unlike this post.

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edit : It’s Off-Topic

This post is not relevant to the current discussion as defined by the title and first post, and should probably be moved elsewhere.

That’s great… how about you add that as a suggestion here and I continue to try to get Gaijin to allow me to play my Type 16 more than 1 day in 5… or do I need to unlock another identical tank for day 2?

Or continue to play my Marders in the incorrect lineups because no one points out the obvious error…

Or wonder why I can’t play my M22 in 1_1…

or 200 more weird inconsistencies.

and you know what, I’d love to see your ‘themed setup’…

but how about we face reality… I have about a 2% chance of getting someone to expand the lineups to fix problems…

You have a 0.000001% chance of what you propose…

How about we discuss it in… your own thread :p

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Reminder :

" Let’s have a focused discussion on vehicles that should be in sim battles, but for some reason have been excluded or missed. Why does one nation have a vehicle in a lineup but an identical imported vehicle in another lineup is missing?"

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Vehicle : VTT DCA
Nation : France
Lineup :
Issue : France gets ONE 2.0 SPAA in 4_1, but not this?
Solution : Add to 4_1

84

Vehicle : AMX-13 DCA 40
Nation : France
Lineup :
Issue : France gets ONE 2.0 SPAA in 4_1, but not this? Germany has the Ostwind II
Solution : Add to 4_1

85

Vehicle : Churchill III and NA75
Nation : UK
Lineup :
Issue : Churchill Crocodile is playable, but not this which is 0.3 BR lower.
Solution : Add to 4_1

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Vehicle : Breda 90/53
Nation : italy
Lineup : none?
Issue :
Solution : Add to 4_1

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Vehicle : Turan III
Nation : italy
Lineup : 3_1
Issue : Playable once
Solution : Add to 4_1

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Vehicle : 90/53 M41M
Nation : italy
Lineup : 3_1
Issue : Playable once
Solution : Add to 4_1

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Vehicle : Lvkv 42
Nation : Sweden
Lineup :
Issue : Sweden gets ONE 2.7 SPAA in 4_1, but not this? Germany has the Ostwind II
Solution : Add to 4_1

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Vehicle : VCC-80/60
Nation : italy
Lineup : 9_2
Issue : Playable once. There are many other light tanks in 10_2 with the same BR of 9.0, but not this…
Solution : Add to 10_2

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Vehicle : ELC bis
Nation : France
Lineup : 6_1
Issue : Playable once. There are 7 other light tanks in 5_1 with the same BR of 6.0, but not this…
Solution : Add to 5_1

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Vehicle : R400
Nation : Germany
Lineup : none
Issue :
Solution : Add to 10_2