Community Update No.10: Starting The Year Off!

Fixed Aim-120C5 from a Typhoon vs Aim-120D that isnt stupidly OP from an F-15EX is one thing, but im sorry, there is absolutely 0 argument that can be possibly made to give US and ONLY the US next gen IR missiles.

That would be insane.

But the point is, Ive seen the argument of “Well, the Typhoon si doing fine, so just ignore the bug reports” used waaaaay too often, even for bug reports that dont affect balance.

I hope the same is true when F-22s are just dominating uncontested that bug reports for them are ignored

The argument is “because we said so and blabla russian bias” one way or another

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F-16C is actually faster than the sm2 it only seems that fast because the devs give it a mc 1.2 air spawn

Seen enough, F-16C to 18.7

How is stealth and meteor missiles gonna work on a map like rocky pillars? I’m so uncertain of how Gaijin is moving forward on adding new missiles but not new maps.

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Exactly, they dont really care about if X is gonna work with Y as long as they can implement it

Figuring out how to do the least amount of work to please us when they can’t even fix what we’re asking for in the beginning.

God knows, but lets face it. Gen 5s will be tuned to dominate, even if its ahistorical

But no one here is advocating for the abandonment of the Typhoon. Respectfully, you are projecting that opinion as fact based on this announcement. I, as a player, can’t control what Gaijin prioritizes on bug fixing. I do hope they fix them soon because clearly it bothers the players who enjoy them. But it also bothers players who enjoy US top tier who don’t have as competitive airframes. Should Gaijin abandon US top tier air then? Because improving it, for some reason to you, means abandoning the Typhoon? I am sorry but that doesn’t make sense.

“Dont fix them because you wont fix mine” is a terrible balancing system.

We will 1000% get Gen 5s at 15.0 with this rate, facing way way more trash gen 4.5s that cant do anything against them lol

But the point is. The Typhoon is struggling just as much as the F-15 is when fighting Rafales or Su-30SM2s, and soon they may start to struggle vs the F-15EX (if that is what is added) and Maybe even the J-10C if the PL-12A are really decent due to the shockingly bad state of AMRAAM most of the time.

At what point is the Typhoon and maybe also the Gripen E, allowed ARH missiles on-par with the MICA EM, R-77-1, Aim-120D and Pl-12A?

Gripen E and Typhoons (and Japanese stuff) will probably get their 120D/AAM4B when 5th gens arrive that already get Meteor and so on

3 years later, its f35 vs f35 vs su57, vs j35. Peek a boo, here’s a missile, Im gonna use my tow decoy now, Oh now Im invisible on your radar and now Im jamming your radar. All of this on a small map like rocky pillars so everyone is just gonna use a full loadout of IRIST or aim 9x since maps are too small for next gen ARH missiles.

Unless they overhaul the AIM 120 adding the AIM120D won’t be that useful. They still haven’t fixed the 120C. I expect it to be (Mostly) useless upon launch. It’s probably just a way to justify another (Mostly) copy paste F15.

its actually gonna be F35 vs F35 vs F35 (insert 7 more F35 here) cuz even russia and china can get them through Czechia and UAE respectively

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Never amraam and sidewinder are failures.

9L 9M will never get their 45G pull.

Oh wow, not surprised… copy paste f16, copy paste f35 lol. History always repeats itself

and if the Typhoon with Meteor is struggling vs F-22 with Aim-120D, can we get further buffs after that? Or will it not matter because its not US or USSR?

Just seems like everytime either one of those 2 nations is slightly weak, they pull out all the stops, but anyone else. Who cares? (thinking back to the year of Tornado F3 and Viggen D vs F-16 and Mig-29 and then F-16C and Mig-29SMT)

Heck, they wont even give the Typhoon SAL Brimstone 2s

Id gladly take my beloved F15EX placed after the E

Unless they ONLY overhaul Aim-120 via the Aim-120D.

Then it will be OP as hell