Commander pops up when using binoculars

No he is factually wrong. My point was that they are examples of turret top MGs that didn’t need it’s gunner to expose themselves when firing.

yep u both saying the same thing

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While it’s an interesting feature it kinda doesn’t make sense. Like why is the commander out when using binoculars but not in third person view? Or how about when using the commander’s (or loaders or really any) external machine gun?
I would somewhat support sight mechanics like in Enlisted, but those would also be too realistic for any mode except simulator, and would also be a lot of work for something very small.

As long as this feature allows people to make custom model replacement mods that are server-side would be pretty cool. So long of course it’s appropriate such as ->Girls und panzer or something of that sort. So +1 since this is progress.

yes that is what both of you are saying. He’s saying it’s apart of the cupola itself and can be fired from inside of it. When he says “hand fired” he doesn’t mean coming out of the hatch to shoot a weapon that doesnt exist outside of the tank, he just means using it inside because thats how it’s used.

just a really simple misunderstanding between wording of each other

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No its really not. He tried to pedant on my post so I raised him. Words matter.
He called it just a hatch with a MG sticking out. Go look at diagrams of the M48-M60 cupola and you will see this is incorrect. The M85 is separate from the TC, its really a tiny tank turret, so its closer to a remote weapon station than a manually controlled MG.

its only hand fired vetically the horizontal movmeant is like a turret but moving the gun up and down IRL is actually just like firing a .50 on a sherman

Still wrong.

AH yes there’s definitely room for a motorized vertical traverse inside of an m19 cupola… no there’s not

Figure 143. Commander's M19 Cupola Assembly Components (Assy P/N 11673774,  Sheet 3 of 5)

Did I say anything about motorized?
Funny you “accidentally” don’t show the actual gun mount. Here let me help you:

You can stop being wrong any time you like.

a turret is defined as a mechanically driven mount containing a gun this is not a mechanically driven mount

Yes it is. I know you’ve never been inside an M60, but did you not look at the picture?

+1, considering the commander would have the uniforms of the respective nation modeled, it would be quite cool :D

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+1
Can I kill the commander with an MG? That’d be funny with the way this game handles crew deaths.

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rip H&g

That’s the entire point of the suggestion

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