In 1999, a contract was signed with Ecuador for the supply of two Kfir 2000 aircraft, which received the designation Kfir CE, as well as upgrades to the existing C2 in the Ecuadorian Air Force to the C10/C12 level.
In 2008, Colombia purchased another 24 Kfir 2000 aircraft, which were designated Kfir COA, in C10 and C12 versions.
On October 10, 2017, the Colombian IAI Kfir was upgraded with the EL/M 2052 AESA radar and included the I-Derby-ER active air-to-air missile and the Python-5 infrared Air-to-air missile.
There are no technical contraindications for the use of Python-3 missiles, especially since Columbia bought Python-4/5 earlier than 2017…
The data on shipments are according to SIPRI, all are approximate
“Python-4” (75 in 2003-2005).
“Python-5” (100 in 2010-2011).
thats a normal C.10 FAE 915 is a C.10 not a Block 60, is still using the Mecanical EL/M-2032 multi-mode Pulse doppler radar, the 32CMs and the old Defensive electronic suite, you can see a Python-3 but if you look to the other wing you will see the nozzle and fins of the Python-4 too behind the ventral fuel tank.
this is partially right, the C2s from the colombian air force got upgraded to C.10 standards (C.12 is a own designation for the C.10s that are dedicated to ground pound only) the Kfir “C.12” didnt recive the EL/M-2052, those got upgraded to Block 60 standards without the radar, soo… only avionics, extra CMs, Python-4/5s and HMS, new MFDs and ground ordinance, the C.12s are more oriented to ground pound than air superiority, all this just for the Colombian ones, the ecuatorian C.10s and C.12s did not recived any upgrades of the Block 60 program.
thats the Ecuadorian Kfir-CE FAE-915 (was a C2, but it later on got into c10 standard along FAE 901, 905, 906, 908, 909, 912, 914, 915), has 0 relations with the Colombian C10 B60.
this is actually true, our country doesnt even mount p3 for training, we use dummy sidewinders or straight up p4, whole point of the b60 was the avionics upgrade including making the pylons python 5 compatible, thus making it unable to make the python 3 work under the upgraded avionics, tho it could fit on the pylon it will be death weight as it wont be able to work
I have a question that I cannot find the answer to -
Will the Derby Fox-3s be better or worse or as wonky as the R-Darters currently are on the Gripen? Was there much of a material difference between the two systems?
Their data and performance can be regarded as C&P in the game.
As far as my personal experience of using Derby on the F-16D, it can only be used within 10Km and can hardly be used in Bvr combat.
U can bvr with it very well in high alt im even gonna say its better then aim 120 in 30km shot if u 10km alt bcuz its very fast of the rail way more then aim 120
I reccomend use the f16c cuz its lighter then the f16d but tbh now with the f15e and uf2k its kinda immposible to bvr against them
Drerby is a bit better then r darter but still kinda the same pull hard and have good range but not amazing
kinda jack of all trades
If u want to do a long shot i reccomend u the help the missile with a loft so it wont need to loft itself and lose energy in the process
There is some difrences in the files but they are minor if im not mistaken derby is a bit lighter which make it with little more range and more agile but yea it isnt rly noticeable
none, my country doesnt reveal much if anything related to vehicles in service, but by common sence its expected that a 1980s missile wont be compatible after an pylon wiring upgrade for a 2000s missile, but just as there is no source that it can, there is none that it couldnt. (not even a single picture, since every b60 only carry p4/5)
