i test each nations mbts with their own apfsds,and i find out why only chinese mbts is so fking frquent on fuel tank exploded,with nearly 100% possibility.
If you clearly check all my shoots,you will find that fuel tank in most nation is not a bad thing,it can eat most shells pieces and hugely decrease its spread towards inside,the most magic fuel tank is T-80BVM and M1A2 and Merkava4.And then is China,sadly most time it wont stop any afpsds,and more sadly it wont decrease most of shells pieces,and even more sadly it most times will create more shells pieces after apfsds get through it.And not end,it will even create fuel tank exploded and remove your whole tanks for no reason.In reality,Chinese mbts fuel tanks full with pieces with random shapes steals to stop most shells shot in.But in war thunder,it is a DOUBLE effect bomb.While Russian and USA and Germany are all BLACK HOLE that eat your shells for no reason.Only Chinese mbts are this awful.Even like lerc2 or chanllenger2 has no such side created pieces or double added pieces like Chinese mbts.And most importantly,gaijin love to say Chinese copy Russian mbts,but definetly not here on magic.And as chinese mbts,even you become that 1% lucky person that avoid fuel tank exploded,the passed apfsds then hit your shells in load system,it will also create tons of bombs effect ,and chinese crews is 1.5 bigger than other countries crews,so what can i say.If you cant one shoot kill chinese mbts,you must have some skill issue…With these evidence,Even italian cant cry more,since italian has no endless fuel tank exploded/shells on load system exploded/2 huge man crews one shoot killed to die at once.Yes,i say this,because there are always some stupid italian cryer like to cry in every chinese suffers article to anti chinese crying.
Just saying, this should be an example of how NOT to post a topic, because I just had to scroll through 8 pages of images, to get to the actual subject…
And even more sad thing is,no one care Chinese mbts sucks as hell.
And even double more sad thing is,there are always brainrot west players come to every chinese articles to cry their english/italy/israel tanks suck,and they hate chinese,and they anti chinese report or cry for these awful bugs/bias,and they dont care chinese at all,and they never get their chinese line even to 5.0,no more need to say top tier.They dont play china, dont care china, dont care china sucks,dont care what bugs/issues china have,but they 100% anti china cry and blind to keep copying “China is very OP”
i do this on purpose,since italian and english cryer will not see any my words/pics,and act like a bot to copy “China is good”“Italy/English sucks”.i just anti these european bots here.
Which is how the tightly packed carousel autoloader is supposed to explode. Problem is, russian autoloaders have the bias modifier and only get turned black, but no explosion. Even tho there’s tens of pictures showing flying Russian turrets
Gaijin did intentionally nerf ammo explode / burning change across the board. Without any patch note or mention in dev blog (which isn’t acceptable behavior ) And this is another reason why i don’t take Gaijin seriously anymore.
We know that as they reply to bug report about ammo not explode / Burning with “Working as intended”
Also in Ammo carousel case. It also not just ammo not explode / catch fire. As seen in the link the spall that are made by APFSDS hitting side armor got absorb by ammo itself (hint as it just turn black but didn’t detonate) a few people said that it already got fix. But from what i read from your post. I guess not .
Also, as somebody else pointed out, scrolling through tons of images can be somewhat annoying. There’s the function to “spoiler” your images to make the section of your thread much more compressed.
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shoot into a barrel of fuel with a 9mm or 5.56 you will see if it explodes or not, if you don’t know the mechanics of fluids, the composition of certain materials, physics in general how can you say that a tank explodes after have shot in! especially since this is a well-known problem in our army today and we are doing everything possible to prevent this from happening. In short, all this to say that in a tank, propellant charges or shells have a greater chance of exploding when hit. by a tire rather than a reservoir, qualify your comments and inform yourself to be able to report corret bugs to gaijin
Those are low calibers though, they are less likely to create sparks to set the fuel off, I doubt you have ever seen the amount of damage and sparks caused by just a .50 BMG to anything made of metal (a lot)
the tank of a tank is not manufactured in the same way as a car tank, the tanks will not explode all the time, they can catch fire but not necessarily explode
You know, it’s up to RGN first, and second, the protection analysis feature is not that reliable for testing the fuel detonation.
By the way, seeing you’re talking about how awful the fuel tank is placed in Chinese MBTs, I’m pretty sure you haven’t noticed the entire floor made of fuel in the Leclercs (which from my experience is usually the cause of death when being shot under the track or lower plate).
Chinese MBTs are far from the worse.
It literally doesn’t explode. I already had done the analysis, diesel fuel requires a certain air to droplet mixture ratio range with a sufficient high enough temperature to auto ignite. The APFSDS penetrating is enough temperature to reach auto ignition, but the fuel to air ratio is far too fuel rich. It will not explode, simple as that.
What DOES and CAN happen is the shockwave from the APFSDS entering the fuel tank and transferring energy to the fuel contained will cause a resultant force on the back wall of the fuel tank. Of course, you can mitigate these effects by having baffles in the fuel tank and reinforcing it. The shockwave is sufficiently powerful enough that it can rupture thin metal and spread with a powerful force into the crew compartment. Although if we want to be really accurate, it should be treated as a wide spread spalling, not an ‘oops, your dead’ explosion.
It is here we enter the 2 tier system Gaijin uses, they only look at if there is a reinforcement on the fuel tank and call it a day. If it has any reinforcement, then fuel tank explosions are pretty much impossible in game. If it doesn’t, well you get the China situation where every shot is pretty much one. This is a faulty approach because it is not reliably simulating what would happen. Say I put a 2mm sheet steel around a plastic fuel tank, is that enough to stop the force generated during an APFSDS penetration? No, the back wall will rupture and there will be an ‘explosion’. And this all depends on the fuel used, mass of the fuel in the tank, velocity of the APFSDS, mass of the APFSDS, thickness and general design of the fuel tank and chassis joint connection, etc. Considering the devs can’t even get Chinese tank models correct, I don’t have any hopes they are able to solve a dynamically loaded structural engineering problem.
My point with explaining this all is, is because the system artificially favors NATO tanks and does not accurately represent what happens. If they insist on fuel tank explosions being a thing, then they should take a real approach to simulating the results of when a fuel tank is punctured, with and without reinforcement.
Diesel also detonates with pressure…also apfsds creates a hole and molten metal and a pressure vacuum behind It all that’s enough to to set off sr-71 fuel if you know anything about that
