Chinese Air-To-Air missiles, History, Performance & Discussion

you could say the ground crew was cutting corners eheheheh

Americans often do this—AIM-120s without fins. As for China, I seem to recall seeing R-27s without fins (?)

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Just cause america does it (p sure those are also their trainers which arent blue like the chinese ones) doesnt mean china does

Here’s r-77 training missiles without fins


Also r-73 with no fins
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those are Russian missiles in chinese service tho Chinese trainers are always blue

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When you need to use the seeker but don’t actually need to fire the missile, you opt for live rounds without the wings installed. Blue training rounds are only for configuration and aerodynamic simulation.

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no, this is R-73 training missile with limited training function for dog fight training.
blue ones are just payloads without function.

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Still more pull than the PL-12Gs 🥀

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1 month anniversary of PL-12 kill

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@kizvy Assuming the PL-11A is a possibly real mod (aka HQ-61 but air to air) from the HQ-61 the PL-11AE might be based upon that

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ngl the hq61 missile looks completely different to pl-11ae. Don’t see any resemblance
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why do you think the 2 missiles r connected?

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just cause but tbf its based of the PL-11 100% actually i just double checked, afaik i know the PL-11 is based of the HQ-61 (or the otherway around) in some regards so they do have history

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In fact, it is the HQ-61C, which already possesses the complete outward appearance of the PL-11. A view holds that the PL-11 originated from the HQ-61C, meaning it utilized the HQ-61C’s airframe and the seeker from the Aspide.
The PL-11AE is the modernized version of the PL-11, though the only thing they still share in common is the name “PL-11.”

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pl2乙/B

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It should be an analog of AIM-9E

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I wish there were more pictures of the missile in use to make a suggestion for the J-6A and J-7II, the extra speed can be quite handy and the F-100A already carries 4 × AIM-9E so I don’t see why the PRC fighters can’t get PL-2B

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we need to nerf the PL-12A /s

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add to J-6A and J-7II ASAP

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Regarding the PL-16: it uses a variable-thrust solid rocket motor, achieving a 50% range increase over the PL-15 and reaching 300+ km.
Regarding the variable-thrust solid rocket motor itself: by significantly reducing the sustain stage thrust and increasing the loft altitude, it can extend the NEZ of an air-to-air missile with a 203 mm diameter and a weight of 200 kg (of which the motor accounts for 140 kg) to 320 km.



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Only a matter of time before air to air missiles start lofting into karman line to achieve ranges greater than 500km.

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