Hey guys kinda weird ask but can anyone find a source (that must be able to be used in bug reports) on the PL-8B? Thanks!
Second hand source works because I already have one, English or Chinese it doesn’t matter.
Edit: Brain forgot to put this in, but ideally it says the PL-8B used domestic Chinese components and has visible differences to the PL-8, it’s not needed completely though. Thanks!
Anyone have any information on PL-9B?
PL-6 just looks like a magic 1 is that the correct image?
I made a bug report to have a modernization of the F-100F into F-100F wild weasel
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/o8nFEsXB8Nr9
Apparently, the PL-12A existed, and it also had an export version, the PL-12AE, and the PL-11 with IR, similar to the R27ET.
Need to prove to Gajing it is an actual missile and not a model, cause Gaijing believes SD10A is the ‘exact copy’ of PL12.
Also just to ask, what plane was this mounted on?
11AE: We didn’t know now, maybe we should wait until 12nd when Airshow begins
12AE: Well… it’s a long range cargo UAV
Right: clarify, I’m following Gaijing logic
It is a cargo UAV (which one?) which means that we are not sure it can be fired, and from our pov it is just a model or simply used for transport, unless accurate sources aka give us some stuff we know are classified or we won’t add it.
Do you think that’s a PL-8B seeker or a modified variant of it?
it’s a different missile, it’s relationship to original PL-11 is limited to name and size, the wing design, and possibly electronics and rocket is totally different.
It’s developed by old PL-11’s institute, which is not same institute of PL-12, that’s why it’s named after PL-11.
Considering that PL-11 is a little larger than PL-12, this should have even more range than PL-12.
PL-8 is very old missile, no reason to keep using it, this should be a IIR seeker.
It does resemble PL-8B’s seeker however you are right it should have newer seeker.
It looks a lot like PL-15. Could this be based on that missile?
It’s just a modern Infrared transparent material, and opaque to visible light.
Similar material is seen in PL-8B, PL-9C,
no, PL-12 and PL-15 are from same institute, PL-11 is from another, just similar.
IIR seekers are see-through for the most part, sometimes with a dark tint but not grey in color. The seeker is likely a modernized PL-8B style seeker.
Here is newer PL-10E
Though, like I said, it’s just difference in the window material, which is not the most important part of the seeker.
Most IIR missiles around th world use synthetic sapphire, which is traditional choice, cheap and good.
I checked some paper, I think the grey window is made by a specific Rare-Earth Ceramic material(based on oxide of Yttrium and Zirconium), which has better performance than sapphire, especially in medium wave IR 3-5 um, but much more expensive.
PL-10 uses sapphire may for cost control reasons. While PL-8B is the best and most reliable missile that time, so it’s resonable to make it best, as for PL-11AE, a modern mid-range IR missile in 2024, it will need a good window to get a nice sights.
Interestingly, GPS guidance is mentioned here. How can air-to-air missiles use GPS? As a higher precision inertial guidance?
Satellites provide two-way datalink communication between multiple aircraft as well as updated INS coordinates for the missile and it’s location in reference to other aircraft. This provides extremely high quality inertial guidance and consistent & constant updates on target & friendly positions.
Without it, the INS would slowly over time loose accuracy. For example, a tank using a handheld GPS device such as a garmin would lose accuracy unless position was updated by a satellite. Traveling just 500 meters could cause the handheld garmin to only be capable of providing an 8 digit as opposed to 10 digit grid. Missiles with much higher rate of travel, complex guidance methods, rapid change in altitudes etc would suffer trying to keep an accurate track of the inertial guidance phase without regular satellite updated coordinates.
Hopefully Gaijin can add PL-12A in the future when AIM-120C is added.
