Chinese Air-To-Air missiles, History, Performance & Discussion

Sadly, I don’t know Chengdu J-7E & Shenyang J-8F armed PL-5E II in PLAAF service or PL-5E II for export operators aircraft only

But I hope gajin add PL-8B for 4 aircraft this month

  • Chengdu J-7E
  • Chengdu J-10A
  • Shenyang J-8F
  • Xian JH-7A
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The only thing holding the j7e at its br is its missiles. If it got pl8b’s it would go to like 12.7.

Yea, I don’t think the J7E should get the PL8B, for the sake of the plane. It still has the Mig 21 engines.

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PL-5C should be enough for it.

I might believe gaijin no problem add PL-8B on Chengdu J-10A and Shenyang J-8F this month

Change Air-to-Air weapon

I don’t worry gaijin change BR to 12.0 and located between J-8B & J-8F

2x PL-5B and 4x PL-5B replace with PL-5C or PL-5E

PL-8 instead 2x PL-2 because PL-2 very outdated for J-7E

Maybe PL5C and go 11.7 since so many people are complaining it should be 11.3 anyways. J7G could be fun as well if we really separate the techtree by 沈飞and成飞

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Or PL-5E stock instead 2x PL-5B and PL-2 replace with PL-8 on J-7E

BR 12.0, my guess

For J-7G, 2x PL-5E II stock and 4x PL-8 & 4x PL-8B

I guess J-7G BR 12.3

did PL-5E have any IRCCM?

No, but 3.5km lock.

Can you post the source

It’s same as PL5EII but without the extra UV sensor to provide IRCCM. I am not sure if it had the multielement though. I’m just surfing through a sea of stuff give me a minute.
edit:There are sources that say it’s just PL5C but some say it has improvements to seeker, I’ll have another search.

Multiple elements are a pre-requisite to R-73 or Magic 2 type IRCCM. The multi-color seeker would be akin to Magic 2’s secondary IRCCM methodology but that is not reflected in-game on the Magic yet. The dual-color (IR+UV) is something reflected in-game but afaik not on the PL-5EII.

Lmk if you find a credible source.

PL-5EII and AAM-3 have their IRCCM intentionally adjusted for what I assume to be balancing reasons.

avic official website, although for some weird reason missiles are not present in the English version

它采用了双色多元探测器、弹载计算机和激光引信
which I guess translates to dual-colour multielement seeker
其它 - 中国航空工业集团有限公司 (avic.com.cn)

Allegedly the R-73 & Magic 2 underperforming gateWidth is a game limitation of some sort that they failed to elaborate on.

Balancing issue, they can’t make it completely flare proof without making it broken and too good so they had to make the gate width wider.

If they would just admit it instead of making stuff up we’d all be happier

True, but half the game is made up so… They are too modern, like ZTZ99A and the same applies to newer radars and jets having disputes about stats.

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I mean excuses, they could admit they did something for balance instead of claiming they have insufficient data or game limitations etc.