Chinese Air-To-Air missiles, History, Performance & Discussion

They stated that it is an AMRAAM replacement in AMRAAM form factor and will be fielded on the F-22, F-35, and F-18 initially.

I think it’s only similar size, to fit existing planes, could have more radical design to create advantage

There are a LOT of other programs currently to develop other designs.

I think it more or less is similar although the IRCCM on 9C is different.

Hey buddy, I would like to ask if you were the first person to propose that J8F cannot use PL11. What is your opinion on this CCTV program



J8FwithPL11

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He knows about this already, when this program came out

J8F is a standard, and I think when other J8s, like B or H which are PL11 capable for upgrades to the F standard, they didn’t remove the SARH option.

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J-8F is a new build improved airframe with entirely new radar lacking a continuous wave transmitter. It would be limited to HPRF guidance only for SARH launches.

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J8H has same radar as J8F, but with PL11 capability.

That’s not true. There are clearly two distinct radars initially.

No? J8H was in 2000. I know wikipedia said type 1473, I think both had 1492, not very likely for J8H to have J10 radar.

Since there seems to be a bit of confusion…
PL-15 is the long range fox 3.
PL-17 is a missile that allegedly is supposed to be an extremely long range missile used up against tankers and generally force multipliers, not at all a PL-15 substitute.
PL-16/PL-15E is the newly unveiled long range fox 3 that has been unveiled at Zhuhai, it features retractable fins and therefore gives China the chance to use 6 fox 3s in the bay of both the J-20 and J-35. Some people also mention longer range, which could be true due to additional improvements done to the missile itself but we still need to have confirmation on that.

Do u know what radar J8H has?

Not off the top of my head.

IDK why wikipedia’s source says KLJ1 which is same radar as J10, doesn’t make sense.

I wouldn’t use Wikipedia in general.

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They have a book as reference, but yeah.
Gordon, Yefim; Komissarov, Dmitry (2008). Chinese Aircraft: China’s aviation industry since 1951 . Manchester: Hikoki Publications.
Anyone have this book?

I do:

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Type 1471 (KLJ-1, KLJ-1PD) allegedly

This thread overall is quite informative with Chinese radars

There is a notch on the right side of the black paint on the radome for the J-8F that is not present for the J-8H. One of them has the lightning protective strips and the other does not. Clearly there are two different radars being utilized.