Chinese Air-To-Air missiles, History, Performance & Discussion

Your comment implies the R-77 and AIM-120A/B have the same range which is incorrect. The AIM-120 has similar range to the AIM-7, though has better time to target from higher acceleration and initial top speed. This enhances its’ range at higher altitudes, and in some cases can reduce its’ range in comparison to AIM-7 at low altitude but the operational engagement range is much extended thanks to there being no seeker range limitation.

The R-77 is akin to the AIM-120C-5, and the TC-2 is slightly heavier than the R-77 while using newer technology so we can presume it has similar or better performance to the R-77 and AIM-120C-5. The claimed range (without context as to launch parameters) is 100km for TC-2, and it is 80km for the R-77 which matches this assessment.

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@不是很能抗压 AIM-9M & R-73 coming to this month 100%

You guess gaijin plan consider PL-5E, PL-5E II, PL-8B and PL-9 Q4 this year ?

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Maybe with more information available they can model them.

We could see PL-5E very soon.

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No, they will add J-11 so that they can copy R-73 to Chinese tree and model PL-5E, PL-5E II, PL-8B and PL-9 lateeeeeeeer.

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Would you ever consider making a page for Chinese guided air to ground weapons? For many of us who don’t read Chinese, it can be very hard to find comprehensive sources about such weapons or what aircraft can carry them. Would be greatly appreciated

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I wouldn’t complain at all if the added the J-15, as it would give china a great fighter while also being able too preform multi role missions with the ability to carry KD-88 missles and possibly other options. On top of that, jets like the J-16 and then the Su-35 are future options that would definitely guarantee that China stays competitive with other nations and maintains good CAS options

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After addition of J-11 variants no exported Russian equipment is necessary, china has their own domestic stuff that remains meta for the remainder of the future possible additions

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But those will still come to the tech tree maybe as premiums

It’s not always about necessity, and China lacks certain weapons systems that Russian aircraft can fill, such as TV guided bombs or laser guided missles. Also if China used a fighter jet, and Russia is also getting it at the same time, there’s no reason why China shouldn’t also get it. Yes I want too see unique Chinese planes, but Id also like too see Russian aircraft that china operates, as they help increase the varsity of weapon systems present in the Chinese air tree.

China in general lacks a variety of guided air to ground weapons, with a few laser guided bombs and the KD-88 being the only real domestic options we can expect. The KD-88 is a great missle for air too ground, but at the end of the day most Chinese planes can only carry so many, with 2-4 being the maximum, while Russian and American planes can bring out far more guided weapons in a single loadout. By allowing Russian planes into the Chinese tech tree, it would allow china too take advantage of the plethora of options offered by Russian aircraft for air too ground

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pl5c is coming but it seems to be all-aspect

powerful but not real :( i hope gaijin will give PL5E but not PL5C

I don’t think it’s wrong.

it’s not sure the all-aspect or rear-aspect for PL5C so gaijin may nerf it, the best way is use PL5E

PL-5E is export of PL-5C … same missile

dude the E in PL5E is not export but a upgrade

edit: ive checked it’s the export

I think people are confusing the base PL-5E with the PL-5EII which would have a seeker equivalent too the Aim-9M/R-73 too my understanding atleast. What I can figure out is where the PL-5C/E sit in terms of performance but I’ve seen a mix of claims at this point, all I know is that they should be improved in some way over the B

It’s still confusing too me and I whish we had the stats of the PL-5C datamined too see what gajjin thought of the missle.

yeah it confuse me now, PL5E is used by JF17 and it’s all-aspect, and PL5C is used by J6/J7/J8/JH7 or some else but not sure it’s all or rear-aspect, someone said it’s just a PL5B but active quicker after it been launched and someone said it’s as same as PL5E

That what I thought too, that it was just a slightly improved B version, but then some Chinese guy sent me an article and it made the claim that the C and the E are equivalent. So I guess it makes the most since that it’s probably gonna be a all aspect seeker. With any luck the seeker might have 9L prefromance so it has a decent chance too ignore flairs

I might hope gaijin consider PL-5C replacement PL-5B and PL-2 replace by PL-8 on J-7E & increase BR higher 11.0 this year