Chinese Air-To-Air missiles, History, Performance & Discussion

[E_m_i_y_a]

Do you have any other information about PL5DE? It is an upgraded version of 5E2

[141_allen]

Nope, given the fact that it is still 3rd gen and seekers are heavily nerfed I think it won’t make much of a difference. Not worth it.

[kizvy]

anyone know what seeker head base pl-12 uses? I want to say it uses base r-77 seekerhead but not actually sure on that

[genises1o]

I dont think its known tbh, the SD-10 (predessecor of the PL-12/SD-10A) used alot of RU component, afaik it should be a 9B1103M analogue for it. Idk what the SD-10A/PL-12 use

[ItzMikeyzWRLD-psn]

FFS

[kizvy]

gotta love that one guy ruining bug reporting for everyone

[ItzMikeyzWRLD-psn]

So unfortunate man. I hope photos like these aren’t banned now:

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Because we know roughly where these were taken, but not who they were taken by or when So if we need specifics this is terrible.

[kizvy]

time to start copemaxxing

[genises1o]

did say that earlier in the thread

[Miraz05]

Now they have another excuse to deny bug reports

[genises1o]

For all those hoping/ coping for a better motor for the PL-12A in particular

its not getting it, the only hope is the mach 5 buff for the entire familiy

[aquilesbrincoyo]

LOL fools thought, they only added an a on the name, changed the statcard and added gnss, j-15t is doa

[Toilet_man_3_0]

wouldnt say its DOA, iirc its the flanker with the current best flight preformance and a meaningful upgrade over other chinese flankers currently in the tree

[kizvy]

48 cms makes it doa.
sure, fm, missiles, radar are good. but youre gonna die easily in matches

[Toilet_man_3_0]

forgot about that. any CM pods it may be able to carry?

[141_allen]

Never had any, and also most of the things that are good about it is in relative to much lower BRs, like J-11B. Against 14.7s all it has is disadvantage.

[Miraz05]

PL-9C stats. Picture source: Bangladesh Military Museum.

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Pictures were taken by @Lightning_234

[kizvy]

Kinematically, seem to be essentially the same as python 3, other than the fact that it’s an all boost motor for 3 seconds instead of boost/sustain.

Has basically the same specific impulse over essentially the same amount of time (slightly less though)

Largely expecting python 3 flight performance wise except with faster acceleration when it eventually comes into the game

[Miraz05]

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Quite similar stats ngl

[NCC105]

@kizvy

Kinematically, seem to be essentially the same as python 3, other than the fact that it’s an all boost motor for 3 seconds instead of boost/sustain.

since its basically a modified Python3