China Norinco VT series MBTs, History, Performance & Discussion

As expected, TEC just made a video about VT-4 “classified document” leak. So predictable of him.

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Damn it, it looks like someone is trying to spread rumors for the sake of traffic.

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TEC is just a content farm at this point, if you look he posted atleast 9 videos with the last day, and usually takes atleast 10 minutes to tell you 2 min worth of content.

Regardless the War thunder devs and moderators themselves don’t seem concerned about the issue, so I see no issues with the bug reports made.

Hopefully we see a lot of these changes implemented into the VT-4 sooner than later, as I want it to hit the live server in the best shape possible. Still unclear if we’ll see a second dev server or not…

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who is TEC? im not really know much about YouTube blogger

He’s a YouTuber who also does some live streaming of the game, but clearly spends most of his time making “War thunder news” for his YouTube channel, but to be completely honest it’s a waste of your time, as he is more content farming then actually being informative, and he’s notorious for making false claims and having unpopular tales, but naturally that’s all a matter of perspective.

TEC is just short for “The European Canadian” which is what he calls himself

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Hey guys, I might start trying to find any and all good info about the VT-5 and Type 15 light tanks in this thread, as I suspect they may be the next tanks to get added to the game for China, and it’s important that if the vehicles come to the game underperforming that we are ready to act and make bug reports that gaijjin will actually acknowledge. I’ll keep adding to this post as I find more content.

Please keep in mind, I do not speak or understand Chinese at all, so any assistance from people who do is greatly appreciated, and I will ad any and all evidence and details that other people can find to this post!

Proof of 4 seconds(or less) Autoloader

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https://youtu.be/GP9UFiMA06U?si=-q2ICJ-Nua-WEqQ3

Shell ejection after firing(0:55) Proof of Neutral steer(3:38) demonstration of turret rotation speed (4:44 & 25:00) Ammo options shown(12:30) Discussion of the Turret mounted grenade launched(14:40) possible evidence of Spall liner (20:18)

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https://youtu.be/1_EnfdYvlUo?si=VrNoGUis7sTnu3Uv

Better demonstration of turret rotation speed(0:35)
CH700B Hydro-Mechanical Transmission (4:49)

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https://youtu.be/0gtbWXba4to?si=6tLpRUofYqiBGBJS

Video proof that the Type 15 has similar internal turret layout and Autoloader system of the VT-5

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https://youtu.be/kvkvX8jQ6jU?si=JKW7O0EtVIlvdYDw

Proof of DTC02-105 APFSDS for Type 15

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Prototype with hydropneumatic suspension, and details of suspension control( it seems that only the prototype had adjustable suspension, and the Production version has Semi-active torsion bar suspension)

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Power pack - Planetary Speed change transmission with 6 forward and 3 reverse gears, and power range of 480-730/KW

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Схема трансмисси CH700 (возможно)

Source for transmission documents: ZTQ-15 and PRC Light Tanks | Page 116 | Sino Defence Forum - China Military Forum

Turret pics

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Info about suspension comes in the comments on this thread: https://www.zhihu.com/question/65351970?utm_id=0

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When did that happen? I haven’t seen anyone leak any documents related to VT-4

The guy who makes a 10 min video on a topic that can be described under 2 minutes. The European Canadian.

Gaijin will not admit videos as evidence :(
edit: about turret rotation speed and reload

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Sometimes they will of it comes from a official source, and if there is a lack of any other info. Such example like the VT-4’s ability to neutral steer. The Autoloader in this video is quite obviously reloading in under 4 seconds, so it’s hard to contest that…

gaijin: it may been fast forward ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Audio usually can be used to determine if speed has been altered or not, also multiple different videos show the same reload speed multiple times. Otherwise to my knowledge there is not official info on the Autoloader speed, so the Video serves as our best source of info to provide. Im taking this matter seriously, so I encourage all to look for actual gold documents and soruces that are publicly available and link them here

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@OddPhenomena may I ask where you found the documents about the Type 15’s suspension?

Also can anyone translate the Chinese on these two pics?


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machine translation
The first picture: Controllable vane shock absorber and its principle 1-Proportional valves 2-clapboard
3-Through-holes 4-Housing (enclosure?) 5-Equalizing holes 6-blade
The second picture: Semi-active suspension controller, (It doesn’t seem to need a translation because there is a translation underneath the text)

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Thanks for the help!

Oh, by the way, the Type 15 and VT-5 are on the same platform, but they are not positioned in the same position. The Type 15 is a light tank and the VT-5 is a light MBT.

I understand that they are technically sold for different purposes, but given how many systems they share between one another, info on one can potentially be used as evidence for the other as well, hints why Im keeping it all together

Potential info on the transmission but I can’t get any hard stats from the last image as it’s to blury and need help with translations once more. We only care about the CH700 as it’s the transmission used on the VT-5 and Type 15

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I found both of these images from this thread: ZTQ-15 and PRC Light Tanks | Page 116 | Sino Defence Forum - China Military Forum
So maybe someone could log in and get a better quality pic of the image

I have an account there:

Here you go

Схема трансмисси CH700 (возможно)

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Thank you! ❤️
Now I just need some one who is willing and able to translate all the important info regarding the CH700 transmission

I also whish I could find the actual soruces that these images came from, otherwise they won’t be of much use in a bug report