Chieftain Sabre: Heavy Anti-Air

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Introduction:

Hi everyone, today I would like to suggest another high tier SPAA for the british tree, the Chieftan Sabre. This radar equipt SPAA is perhaps the best gun based SPAA that could be added to the british tech tree in game, as it offers both increased ammunition load over the Marksman (750 rpg), as well as having more versitile belts, as unlike the 35mm KDA cannon’s on the marksman with their emacited apds secondary belts , it would have 1/4 its belt loaded with APDS like in the falcon, with the added bonus of having a radar to help it engage air targets. Because of this i think the Chieftan Sabre is a worthy suggestion for the british tech tree :).png “:)”)

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Vehicle History:

The Sabre SPAAG system was a project between RO and Thompson CSF in the 1980’s to convert Chieftain and Centurion MBT’s into a 3 man Self Propelled Anti-Aircraft Gun offering low level air defence at an operational level. Primary targets were helicopters and low flying fast attack jets, although the weapons were able to tackle ground units if needed.

Chieftain and Centurion Sabre was equipped with twin 30mm Oerlikon or 27mm Mauser cannons with an effective range of 3000 meters and a ROF of 1300 to 1700 rounds per minute. The 30mm cannons had a either a semi-automatic to fully automatic modes with optimum burst settings of 5 to 15 rounds with a MV of 1080m/s in a 750 round magazine containing either SAPI or HE self-destructing rounds.

The reaction to target destruction time was 6 seconds and primary tracking was via the Thompson CSF Electronics system and built in “Œil Vert” radar that had Omnidirectional Doppler tracking ranges between 7km and 15km. Once detected the enemy would be tracked by the commander while the IFF kit informed him of target identification. The data was relayed via the Sabres Fire Director Equipment which provided an image to an automatic TV tracking coupled with an early digital FCS that would adjust the shot fall while the LRF gave an acute target distance to the gunner.
The Sabre turret was designed to fit both Centurion and Chieftain with no structural changes however due to Chieftain’s poor sales record and Centurion approaching obsolescence in many nations; the Sabre did not get put into production and instead remains as a single proof of concept.

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Vehicle specification:

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In terms of preformance this vehicle is basically a Chieftan with a falcon turret, with an increase in ammunition capacity to 750 rpg, giving it significantly longer combat endurance than the Falcon with its more meagre ammunition load.

  • Dimensions (L-W-H) 35’4″ (24’6″ without gun) x 11’5″ x 9’5″ ft.in, (10.79m (7.51m) x 3.5m x 2.89m)
  • Total weight, battle ready 55 tons (11000 Ibs)
  • Crew 3 (commander, driver, gunner).
  • Propulsion British Leyland diesel BL 40, 450-650 bhp, later BL 60, 695 bhp
  • Speed 48/30 km/h road/cross-country (29.82/18.64 mph)
  • Range/consumption 500 km (310.68 mi)
  • Armament 2x HSS 831L (30 mm) 750 rpg
  • Armour glacis 4.72in, sides 1.37in (120/35 mm)

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Seems like a perfect fit between the Falcon and Marksman! +1

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I think this would be a great addition to the game and could easily sit at 8.3 with the marksman and ZA-35 maybe even in a folder with it

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+1 Would be really nice to have it foldered with either the Chieftain Marksman or Falcon (bear with on this… I’m dreaming of a day when we have the Challenger Marksman in game)

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Could be a nice alternative to the Falcon. Lose a ton of mobility, gain some armour.

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Hopefully it would be balanced as to make sense for it being added, or simply foldered somewhere, i like it! +1

+1 would be great

Folder it after the Falcon, love to see more spaa options

Alternative to the Falcon with a radar? +1

Man I would love to see this thing, just give this thing the high pen rounds and take them off the Falcon so it can go back down in BR. The Cent variant could be nice to see as well at maybe a slightly lower BR like 8.0 or even 7.7 with the Falcon back to like 7.0 maybe or even 6.7 (let me dream)

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yeah i also would love to get the falcon at 6.7 or some br like that insta kills all it finds is my dream no more main german tiger femboys