Chieftain 900 - The Super Chieftain

Yes but they most often just shoot my cupola and instakill me or shoot between tracks and armour, hit something then I die, so I really hate the WT T34/85

Thats strange to hear tbh. I myself use the less pen T-34-85 shot, and it never does oneshot a tiger to culopa :/
tho between trucks is a good spot to get oneshot, no wonder.
Maybe you carry too much ammunition?

Mostly 6.0 but 6.3 is common and 6.7 is every 20 games or so but never have I ever gotten a downtier at 5.3-6.0

Maybe, I think I should go with “just enough” to too little than have enough for sniping. Thanks man, I know how to kill Tigers, not get kills

How much do you take?

sounds like good games to me xD
i meet 6.7 close to every 5 games, and thats a rare for me)
6.0 and 6.3 maybe three of them 5 games, and the 5.7 maybe two of them five games.
so idk

i usually use tigers for pushing, so having ~30 shots is easy enough for me. I carry 22 of them 153mm APHEs, 5 of them 165 APHEs, and three HEs. With the 6.0 tiger E (and 5.7 tiger P that has better options) i use 22 of them 165 APHE, 6 APCR and 2 HE.

Still pretty stock, only have parts, busy researching PzGr. but I think like 13 PzGr. 39 and 3 HE which does me well in the Panthers but is prone to getting me killed

I think I will keep it to max of 20 but will use similar distribution

Sounds similar to what i bring when I used them.
Shouldn’t ammo rack too often then

Maybe my playstyle or I’m just very unlucky/bad when I play it

From what info I can find in books they converted a Mk.5/3P as the prototype test bed for Chieftain 900. The test bed never got composite armour it just had the normal turret armor with a steel “box” to show the profile of the turret with composite armour fitted. It also got the new more powerful 900bhp engine which they did suggest could be upped to 1000bhp. The real thing had it entered production would have had the composite armour along with other upgrades.

From the state of the Chieftain 900 in game it really does seem like they have added the prototype to me and not a true production version. Interestingly enough the book im using doesn’t give a weight figure for Chieftain 900 but as far as I can see the weight figure thats out on the web and in game is without the weight of composite armour so im not sure if that means the tank should be more mobile than it currently is? That being said the difference in mobility between L60 and Condor engined Chieftains wasn’t massive the real difference was that the Condor engine was much more reliable ect.

As for the APFSDS stuff while the L11 can certainly fire APFSDS ammo the Mk.5/3P’s ammo racks cant stow it as those mk’s of Chieftain never got the /4 upgrade as far as I can tell given that they were for export ect. The production version of Chieftain 900 would have had APFSDS useage as an optional extra, with interestingly enough thermal sights and some other items to do with gun control and climate control ect.

This info comes from the book “Chieftain Main Battle Tank” isbn 9781785210594 which in itself using info from some of the other Chieftain books out there and does list its other sources ect.

To be honest im probably being pedantic xD

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As far as I know we had the chieftain 900 which was the prototype and the different MK900 which was the more upgraded one , which there is a suggestion thread for whcih I don’t think has been passed ot devs yet .

Being this one.

That is my point the L23 shouldn’t even be on it due to the tank not being able to fire it.
Granted L23 wasn’t exactly a thing either which is also in the devs hands -.-

I do wish we got the production not proto variant, the production one though likely would of been a 10.0 tank?
dunno why that was a bad thing though.

I don’t any information on the proto chieftains tbh I’ve got a PDF of the Osprey book
" ChieftainMainBattle
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Good man, just as I am xD
I’ve been chasing up information for god knows how long on L15A5 as to try get more accurate values, maybe then we could get the 900 to lose its L23 but get th L15A5 with its correct bloody values and maybe it’s composites or something and stay 9.0

@Jarms can tell u how long I’ve been harping on about the L23 and L15A5 too bloody long

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I’ve got that one and the Haynes one. The Haynes one has a full chapter on the Chieftain trial tanks and the other odditys. A Chieftain with a gas turbine engine for example :D

Was that not the one used by Marconi to test the Centaur fire control system? That was a standard Chief with the turret off Chieftain 900 and given the grand but optimistic name of Chieftain 2000 as far as I can see?

Oh that sounds like it could be fast! xD
I need oto gather more books but the prices are wild unless u steal them, which I don’t

You’d need to check the thread, as far as I can see it wasn’t just the FCS that was different, had new transmission and what not as well, that link i posted has a massive list, though it could

think the 2000 was different ina few ways but could be wrong

Also as far as I know the stat card says 53 KPH for the Cheiftain 900 but mines wont go past 48
EDIT:

So rather than make it go it’s historical bloody speed
they decided to make it just go 48KMPH, so now what do we have?
yet another packet of lies on the release for the cheiftain 900 where they stated it could go 53 Kpmh and was more agile due to upgrades, yet its objectively worse than the mk10 at 9.0.

Remove it’s damn L23 and make it an 8.7
OR give it some sort of boon

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Well its in the British tree isn’t it. We cant have nice things!

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genuinely the “extra” mobility isn’t even recogniseable and I’ve near spaded it already xD

And… Mk3 and mk5 … 8.3 ?
dog-coughing-husky-cough

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No mk3 is an 8.7 tank as is the mk5.

This thing is literally just a mk5 with a dart and lrf rn
The mobility is next to non noticeable

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You can’t drop the 900 to 8.7 and then expect to keep the Mk 3 & 5 at 8.7.

The Mk 5 already makes the Mk 3 a redundant backup vehicle. The 900 would simply do the same to the Mk 5. Even without L23 the 900 would be fine at 9.0, it’s basically the halfway point between the Khalid and the Mk 5.

Not really considering rhe kahlid has over 400 hp more.

The 900s only advantage is a slight mobility boost lrf and a dart, which if we remove the dart it wouldn’t be much better than a mk5 at all.

How so?

Also on a side note seen loads of folks in game complaining about darts and their effectiveness rn cause they bounce or just so nothing a lot. Any ideas if the bug from a wee while ago is back.