Burst HESH shells.
its likely the HESH rounds went first, and it cascaded into a supersized explosion.
Yes which would indicates they burnt, rather than violently detonated.
Also, the Right side of the turret was still mostly intact, indicating something in the left rear detonated, which is where the main ammo rack is.
you can even see it was a outward blast on that left rear, as the Cast steel is bent out, and shattered
Granted with the FV4211, Its Chobham array was set up to be the same effectiveness as the Standard Mk5 Chieftains armor. So it would basically be a faster Mk5, with a Slight buff against heat shells, and some AP shells that aren’t reliable against spaced armor types of things.
Does the Mk11 have a stronger engine than the Mk10? Ik the Mk10 is underperforming ingame but again if that lets it stay at 9.0 it would be fine for me to leave it like that and only give the stronger engine to the Mk11. Although I am fully expecting the Mk10 to go to 9.3 in the future when the next wave of big decompression changes hit 8.0 - 12.0 and that’s when it should receive the engine and ammo upgrades too.
Would be very interesting to see this at 9.3 maybe also with a weaker round. If the Mk11 and the aluminum Chieftain were to be added they could make the British 9.3 as big as the German or Russian 9.3.
its only like a 30hp difference. From 750hp to 780hp. It was improvements to the air filters and the Supercharger if i remember right.
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L23A1 would pull it up to 9.3 at best mate, it would not be up against leopard 2 bar the 2AV which it could see for years regardless.
It couldn’t see T90S, even since I started to play the game about 5 / 6 years ago it couldn’t see T90s even if it was 9.3
Then give it L15A5 with the correct pen values as @Jarms and I keep saying, and then leave it where it is.
L23 is not real, it’s like giving an F16 access to a random missile called aim8A or something like that which is just not real. No one would accept it.
The MK10 works extremely well in both upteirs and downtiers mate, there’s barely any 10.0s even left in the game. So that’s just not a true statement.
The Chieftains only broke down primarily in the early models as most folks know, the later models they rectified most the issues bar the odd leaky pipe. It was in service for 2 decades mate, it obviously got upgraded and rectified.
This is catagorically false, the MK10 Chieftain rolled out in the mid 80s. after the CR1. MK10 went into service in 1984 last I checked.
It was a MK9 that was upgraded, so it’s already a heavily upgraded vehicle.
Which contemporaries? cause realisitically the only challange it had was from the T72 and or T64 when they also worked, which it was also a challange for.
That mate is a bold as hell statement, the CR1 was a fantastic tank, it proved in desert storm how bloody good it was, the distance they covered , as well as the fact it still holds to this day the longest tank on tank kill speaks volumes about it.
The Shir 2 program was entirely for export to Iran, which flopped due to a bloody revolution that is absolutely nothing to do with British tank production capabilities.
Thus proven by how effective the CR1 was.
That is again catagorically false, Chieftain for it’s time was far more effective than it’s counterparts, CR1 also proved itself time and time again.
You also realise the British are Tier 1 allies of the USA because we told them how to make the damn composites ?
@Morvran or any other person who knows about tanks can tell you the same.
the CR1 was / is comparable IRL to the M1A1.
The Chieftain IRL where fantastic for their time, bar the very early models with piss poor engines.
The CR2 as well was a monument to how well we still produced tanks, as shown by how few of them have ever been destroyed, whilst in similar conflicts Abrams have lost much higher numbers.
How so ?
We gave the design of Chobham to the Americans in teh 70s to cement an alliance with them.
We hadn’t redesigned our tank fleet and used it the first time a new tank was created.
You spewed a lot of stuff with absolutely zero reference or back ups for it mate .
CR1’s are fantastic mate.
CR2’s Are my second most used top tiers in game rn still as well.
Which as @dotSHINI says should also go to the German tree as it is primarily german equipment in it.
As always mate they just slam together random af vehicles and act as if it’s true.
The mk900 should be firing L15A5 as far as I’m aware still.
10.7 is fantastic still TBH, the Vickers MK7 combined with the CR1 DS and CR1 Mk3 is a pretty nice little combo , as well as the jaguard GR1A as CAS/ CAP and I use the stsormer AD for SPAA.
They still are viable tanks TBF man , they’re just not great.
the 2E abd BN I do better with over the 11.7 ones for some reason, no idea why, the 3TD needs to be removed from teh damn game.
I Think it should be the same as the MK5
the 3TD we have shouldn’t even be in the game TBH mate, it’s not a real tank from what it shows us
it ould make it 9.3 and it would be fine to be fair
It works for me even if people try play properly
Give it the armour, remove the L23 from teh shir 2 make it 9.7 and the MK900 9.7 done sortde
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Some one did make a great point on another post there, the MK900 should be more mobile as it doesn’t have teh concrete / weight of the chobham no ?
I also must say i am still massively looking forward to this tank
That’s ok.
The kh-38MT set a precedent for implementing stuff from brochures. 🙂
@Heavytanker1945 i woudlnt say thats quite correct.
Its a bit misquoted. Saying its primarily german equipment disregards the original challenger parts and might anger some people.
Most of the chally 130 still is british.
Just the “important” parts or the parts that make it the challenger 130 are german.
But the fact that its german parts aint enough.
The importanr factor is that the challenger 130 is a standalone project by rheinmetall germany without any part of the UK. To prove the capability to put the 130mm cannon on an actual tank. The challenger being chosen cause its fatter then leos and easier to modify.
This was done to advertise against the french 140mm nexter cannon in the fight for the mgcs main cannon.
All this being sourced by an interview with rheinmetall.
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If we were going by the brochures then we’d have the chobham.
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Having re read the original comment that makes it seem as if im saying you stated that.
I should of separated the primarily german parts from mentioning you, i mentioned you to say it should go to the german tree.
“As it is primarily German parts” as something i am stating.
Someone also did say something similar to that as well below as it was mostly used as a demo for the 130mm ?
Thank you, I pinged you as you’re substantially better informed regarding the topic.
As i also said above to clear the air the statement on German parts is from me, not yourself.
Just to save any confusion in the future.
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- it could go to germany, not that it should.
Honestly at the start i was even against germany getting it, but i got misquoted so many times nefariously by the same british guy i just said duck it, i am gonna embrace it and spread the reality of the chally 130
jup, thats it. Thats is its full reasons for existence
For anyone intrested here the official source for everything
Yall are being schitzo, I just want the chieftain 900 so I stop being overpressured by 40mm saphe to the turret face.
Edit (https://youtu.be/rgs_dvBRjpc) just in case anyone wanted to see a 40mm saphe with 38mm of pen and like 5.7mm of he pen going through a 200mm cast turret.
10.7 Britain is extremely strong, so is 9.3 Britain
The only place Britain starts to genuinely get weaker is at top tier and even then you still have some decent options, they just arent as competitive as other nations.
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I mean, I’m British, I am patriotic and want it, but it should also go to Germany.
The vickers MK7 could also maybe slide into that category seeing as it’s a leo2 hull.
Sweet man sweet!!
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Quite like my 11.7 cr2 lineup with some CAS, the 12.0 lineups pretty mediocre though.
Not bad not good either
One question, is there a video or photo of the explosion? I ask this because it’s one thing for the vehicle to explode directly upon impact, and another for it to catch fire and the ammunition to explode as a result.
Chieftain 900 currently modelled with what appears by the rpm to be an L60 engine, when it should be fitted with the RR 900E (actually CV12 TCE wearing a fake moustache), a CV12-series engine operating at 2300 rpm. I have a suspicion that this engine is from the Vickers Mk 3(i).
I’m away this weekend I can’t even be bothered to report it.
Well done on pre-converting the hp to ps, I can see everyone is slowly learning.
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