Chengdu J-10, History, Performance & Discussion

J-10B will have less drag. There was a major refinement of the intake/nosecone.

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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Pe1gOfBlmzmU
Plz support. J-10A 250kg LS-6 on inner pylons.

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Some people on Chinese tieba think that J-10B is more likely to come than both J-10B and J-11B.
And also some say that J-10B is not ready yet on the dev server, we might see it later in an dev update.

I hope that the Air-to-ground missile ordinance will be ready for the J10B, the C-700s missile series and the addition of Pl8B will be welcome

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This.
Even if J-10B isn’t the best in air-to-air, I at least want better CAS option other than JH-7A, which is getting outclassed now.

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gaijing must develop Chinese indigenous air-to-ground missiles, I had made bug reports 3 months ago to indicate missing air-to-ground equipment for China like the C-701, C-704 my report has been acknowledge for 3 month and still nothing, and a good part of these weapons can be found on the JH-7A

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So this imply J-10A drag is pretty accurate?

Well, it might be slightly underperforming, but not by so much that it will be a huge difference.
I don’t have official documentation.

How would the j10b/c compare to the typhoon and Rafael in a dogfight?

Nothing concrete, but I have some estimates.
It’ll probably lose to Rafale in one-circle turnfight, Rafale is most-optimized for that out of all the canard-deltas fighters.

J-10B will likely have better low-speed AOA than Typhoon, currently J-10A on the dev server has lower stall speed and better lift generation compared to Typhoon. If you give J-10A with more thrust like J-10B it will be no slouch.

So I think they are certainly in the ballpark of being comparable.
Rafale can outturn you, but you can slightly outrate Rafale.
Typhoon will be able to energy fight you quite easily, but at the same time if the Typhoon gets slow you will have an advantage.

J-10C is heavier J-10B, but with even more thrust.

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It should be the J-15 that should be joined with the SU-30SM, at least the J-11BS. Because the J-11B cannot be used in CAS, and China is in great need of such a multi-role fighter.

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Honestly if Su-30SM is coming to War Thunder I don’t think J-16 is far away.

They could just give us 30mkk

The J-16 is China’s most powerful non-stealth fighter, and I don’t think it should have arrived so soon. The J-15 can also carry a variety of A2G weapons, or complement the multi-role fighter matching the SU-30SM with a subline.

The SU-30MKK cannot carry the Peregrine-E optoelectronic guidance pod, so I would prefer to get the SU-30MK2

These are anti-ship missiles. Not anti-tank

there is anti ground target version, with TV/IR seeker, while the anti-ship version has radar seeker

On an unrelated note, helping Gaijin model Chinese vehicles is a pain.
For example, British vehicles Gunjob is there to give the devs data directly, meanwhile it is up to us players for China.

I talked about this before. the old data provider was impeached, and no one take his place. and most Chinese players don’t use this forum, especially the experts of Chinese vehicles, so no Chinese Technical Mod so far, resulting hardness in issues.

Well, I don’t think that a rocket with such dimensions can be installed in an amount of more than two pieces. Yes, and there are questions about range. Of the A2G variants, I found only C-704KD