Changes to Bomber Survivability Feedback and Discussion

The fact like not even 100 messages up you got full structural schematics for the b17 and b29 and its just an abhorrent labrinth of spars and ribs that would make a ship designer blush

Also news on the F89D front, on dev it just gives me “error try again later or re log in” (which ive tried)

Maybe i can try the purcara, its not prox fuse mighty mouses but it has the number count

these were there so the plane could support its own weight

Oh, they must have closed the dev.

No, im on the dev server right now, wiki is not playing nice

That labyrinth of metal absorbs overpressure well, but not extended rapid stress. The fragmentation is a different story, but if it doesn’t reach the pilots or engines, it won’t do much.

The easy solution to some of this is allowing big explosions to shatter the propellers.

no-brain-dumb

Im just gonna rocket salvo a burst over the b29 see how it does

Use Mighty Mouses.

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and this is why the entire plane falls apart on its own if you take it out

This has to be an alt to troll man, lynx is that you?

Bombers don’t fall apart like Legos, even under 70kg explosions. I have already disproven this with actual video footage and side-by-side screenshots.

A Nike Ajax (70kg HE missile) doesn’t even blow a wing clean off at the fuselage when detonated against it.






As you can see in this example, while the damage is catastrophic, the shredded bomber is still holding together. This is a kill, but it isn’t split into pieces. The only major parts that fell off completely are an engine and half the wing.

My aim is abysmal dogshit with rockets lmao, I tried keeping the bursts to similar sizes as that video, First burst had one clip the top of the vertical stabilizer and the next burst actually managed to hit

Very good research. However, I believe a F150 truck vs 70 kg explosive filler bomb is necessary for me to believe such claims.

A tesla is also mostly aluminum, I can find a video of one being blown up by 70kg for you xD

Seems to be pretty accurate to the video. Any objections?

I do have an objection, Im embarrased of my aim with rockets lmao

I am genuinely uncertain what to take of this lmfao

Not gonna lie, I’m pretty sure bombers will be fine as they are right now. People will start aiming for engines and bringing rockets to deal with them. This is entirely historical.

Most of the people against this bomber fix seem to be reacting emotionally and not actually wanting to adapt. I’ve seen this a lot here, as people would rather just cuss you out and insult you instead of replying with counter-evidence like an adult.

No, they’re not fine, that requires effort and neuron activations, bombers are built like fighters and thus single 20mm rounds taking off entire tails is actually really realistic, the luftwaffe just sent up its dumbest and dimmest into the skies over germany because the allies wouldve never managed to bomb the factories if they sent up pilots that could land more than one shot on bombers, and thats unfair :P

notice how it is dead?
war thunder has simplifed damage models because it is a video game and for the player to actually die the wing/tail/whatever needs to physically come off. what you guys are advocating for is more or less making it harder for these parts to come off which with the way damage models work would make them comically tanky and unkillable. if you were to make a hyper realistic damage model and add it to the game changing nothing else from current live server bombers actual survivability would be like slightly better than what we currently have.