On the video I see an engine that dies due to the fire, and on the first seconds of the video I see your friend destroying 1 of 2 horizontal elevator, so if he shoots a bit more there, you are done. Also, I am not sure if you have the info, but if he wanted to go for the engines, he should be trying to use a belt with some AP or AP-I if possible, i will give better results. and only HE belt will have a hard time. Anyway good clip
…ok, so that aside…
You do know that shooting a bomber with several 30mm shells to pretty much anywhere will make it, at the very least, be uncontrollable and fall out of the sky, right?
I’m a bomber player and I am all for them not being free RP but they are not tanks of the sky.
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Why hasn’t the flap come off with all that dmg?
They were not, bombing from that high altitude caused a huge decrease in accuracy and B-29s had to fly lower
And I have 3 more
How does that change anything regarding to the fictional structural strength of this bomber?
We already know AP can take out engines or crew. But that bypasses the entire point of this testing which was seeing what kind of damage would be necessary to make the wing structure fail.
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The issue is that gaijin quite vastly overturned how powerful they are, and that people seem to be incapable of thinking about or agreeing with anything but what they already believe.
Bombers obviously were way way too weak before, but gaijin went too far in the other direction. If these changes go through as is, expect bombers to go up in BR because they will become the best air superiority aircraft at their BRs.
I wouldn’t mind that. At least my tu-95M will be able to enter the lowest bracket of nuclear escalation…
Bombers just need a better niche or some feature to keep them interesting to interact with in air rb. Something like a feature that will make other players fly nearby and defend/attack bombers to get more points… Something like…
If he has HE, and after the first shots 1 of your 2 elevator are destroyed, I think he should be attacking there more.
Then it makes sense that the engine is not destroyed with HE.
Seems like they’ve updated TB-3. Now it’s geniune death star taking rams and thousands of rounds barely taking any damage whatsoever. Guess i will ask for some actual raid-boss title for playing this.
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We can already do that in the live server. You’re just ignoring the issue.
No, if you do that the whole tail section will dissasembly lol, but hey, whatever, I already stated my point well above.
Gaijin has greatly strengthened bombers’ resistance to damage, making them nearly indestructible. I know that bombers in the game urgently need better survivability, but this should be limited to resistance against machine guns and cannons. In fact, bombers on the dev server can now defend multiple missile hits, and can even survive being rammed by other aircraft; and as for machine guns and cannons, they can hardly kill a bomber at all. Gaijin has turned bombers into outright flying battleships — soaring high and impossible to destroy. As a player from mainland China, I’ll attach here some test videos from the mainland Chinese video platform bilibili showing the damage resistance of bombers on the test server. The video includes such absurd material as missiles finding it very difficult to shoot down bombers (including the high-power AIM-54 missile — even 6 AIM-54 hits cannot destroy a B-17) and a B-52 being able to directly ram and destroy a B-17 without taking any damage. This reminds me of the omnicrusher in Red Alert — it’s simply absurd beyond belief. Gaijin should adjust bombers’ damage resistance; the situation on the test server right now is just too ridiculous.
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I remembered I had a scanned copy of Famous Airplanes Of The World: Ki-61 on my computer. There’s a section outlining its use against the B-29 which is very relevant here.
It has been translated. It’s not perfect but still perfectly possible to understand.
And a photo of a pilot that has shot down several B-29s with this plane - apparently he was the instructor of the pilot providing the above testimony.
These are Ki-61-I Hei and Tei models being used, which had just two 20mm cannons and two 12.7mm machineguns. And yet they were deemed EFFECTIVE in shooting down B-29s.
Also note the strategy used at night: get behind the B-29 and shoot in bursts until it is on fire. Once on fire it was certain to come down.
Currently all of this is impossible in the dev server.
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So, I’ve finally downloaded the dev client and tested some stuff myself.
The fuze absolutely has to be part of why the large missiles deal so little damage.
I’ve had a pretty high success rate with Sidewinders and Magic IIs in rear aspect, but none at all with larger missiles or ones with larger proxy distances.
As a reminder, I don’t think the damage model as it is on the dev server is fine, it needs to be toned down and certain weapons need to deal more damage.
Also, shoutouts to the Falcons for straight up missing the B-29s thanks to Gaijins decision to have missiles try to hit centre-mass, which is slightly above the fuselage lmao
Its been made clear multiple times bot controlled aircraft play by a different set of rules regarding their flight model and how they handle fires vs a player controlled b29
it got nerfed right?
Thats hilarious
And a player-controlled aircraft just stays on fire forever, not taking damage.
Im on fire
Damage is spreading
Damage getting severe
Unable to maintain control of aircraft anymore
And these are fires on engine pods separated from the wing, one could argue the fire shouldnt even spread to the wing, but I wont, the point here is fires do damage
Fire is very inconsistent from what I’ve seen so far
It can end up crippling the plane, but it can also end up doing absolutely nothing lol
Lemme hop in a single mission and let a bot shoot me and my own b29, and let it set me on fire and check what happens