Changes to Bomber Survivability Feedback and Discussion

It’s a 13mm. Flash is too small to be a 20mm.
Cope.

Note how as soon as 20mm connects the P-51 loses control. And the P-51 was an exceptionally strong plane compared to everything else… there’s a reason it won the war.

As soon as they made it to the flimsy standards that everyone else was making their planes to it became the best performing piston engine aircraft ever built.

Fighters make stories. Bombers win wars

Anyway, so lets say the b17 in that notorious bf110 clip is getting hammered by mg151s. Ive now confirmed the fire rate of 720 RPM from 1 in 3 rounds being tracer and the placement relative to the 110s guncam. Why isnt the B17 being peeled open like a can of sardines as shown in your tests against an he111 horizontal stabilizer?

Could it perhaps be the skin thickness being 2 to 3 times the thickness of that he111 stabilizer + being built like a… fortress?

Or the area of the aircraft being large enough to negate the effect of those mine shells going off in a small enclosed space?

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Even the B17’s tail surfaces are ludicriously thin relative to the rest of the aircraft by a factor of up to 3

What I see here is, again, the plane stays together, fuselage and wings stay on relatively in one piece, the weakspots remain weakspots, the tail surfaces, the wing tips, the engines, the cockpit

The faster the jet the less time to react-> the more effective.

except you have to put a fuze with shorter time, and that could be problematic on slow speeds then or near friendlies

USSR was the third countries with VT fuze

USSR, Britain, and the US are the VT fuse bros

Well, these grenades were too small for that, I think. And anyway, they abandoned attackers, what do you expect.

I just want silly parachute mini-bombs as countermeasures on soviet, japanese and british aircraft, it would be fun, old-school flares/chaffs. Don’t know tho why won’t gaijin add real old-school chaffs - window and german variant of window.

I can answer why theres no old school chaff. its useless in war thunder, we dont have night raids, we dont have radar to worry about, not at this br, it would just be a gimmick to mess with like the one dude with a german radar armed night fighter and he’d still see you on the broad daylight that we fight in

“ludicrously thin”

Uses same gauge as most of the rest of the airplane.

Lmao.

They should add the WWII AA battery like the modern one to the game. One radar, Spot light, 2 Heavy AA and 2 Light AA. It would be leagundary in base defence.

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we do have them on some planes, also bombers meet radar spaa at certain brs

I see .064 tapering off to .051 to .032 to .016 over the spars heading to the wingtip, that taper not beginning until after the outboard most engine, and the over flap areas aft of that chilling at .032 tapering off to .025 before .020 before encountering the .016 inch aileron

I see .040 and .032 down the entire fuselage barring select few panels in the nose

And then i see .020 on the vertical stabilizer and .020 on the horizontal stabilizer bumping up to .025 over its spars and .040 on the small leading edge where it joins to the fuselage, and FABRIC tail control surfaces

Far from “same gauge as the rest of the plane”, these are the very pictures YOU gave me

Now you’re being deliberately ignorant and dodging the question I’ve asked you.

Also yeah, gaijin should just add them as they did with SAM sites this year in one mode.

Why won’t they add FLAK sites with radars? For NE or ASB airfields

What SAM site? I mean the top tier SPAA. The WWII AA FOB system was already tried in the SturmTiger Event. They just need to let us deploy those AA gun on the field like the top tier US SPAA

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Wait, do you mean like, multi-vehicle spaa with radar vehicle and gun vehicle?

That would be cool, but I doubt gaijin will add it as a playable vehicle type.

They did not even start going down the BR line with more modern multi-vehicle variants such as multi-vehicle ozelot or strela…

Yeah what SAM site are you talking about? Nuclear Thunder? They should not really do that without giving us ECM. With ECM the BR can be further decompressed

Yep, they added sam sites in NE mode, there were no sites before in the game, innit.

They could do the same with FLAK gun sites. A radar, a listening post, a spotlight and 4 FLAK guns around. Targeting planes and pointing a spotlight at the target, so a player will know when he is targeted, because old planes had no rwr or something.

And they could add these old school chaffs to britain, germany and japan, iirc.

They can add the custom battle Squadron AI system for bomber and see which side able to finish bombing the city first, then add a nuke as the match ending mechanism.

WarCrime Thunder

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Give b29 its firebombs i need the authentic tokyo experience

Love u bro thx