Chances new russian aircaft top tier

You trading 12 missiles for 6 R-77-1 and slightly better flight performance?

We can always get more powerful engine for Su30SM instead of new plane.

That way it can keep up with next and current jets.

Even then though the Flanker is a big heavy aircraft.

Gripen NG frist, as unique variants before add Gripen E

It is but new engines will certainly help a lot until Su-30SM2/ 35/57 comes.

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AL-41F -in game now!!!

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In testing on the dev the R-77-1 and the 120 launched at the same speed and the same altitude arrive at the exact same time. With a target not defending, problem is map size. A Su-30SM and Su-35S accelerate faster and have a faster top speed but they will never match a Typhoon/Rafale etc

That’s why I suggested better engines for 30Sm.

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Why wouldn’t they match typhoon and rafale? Radar, engines, R-37M. Typhoon has super-cruise an advantage there.

I think he’s saying that even with those engines it wouldn’t match the Typhoon/Strike Eagle/Rafale in terms of kinematics, issue is, as long as the flanker FM is poorly modelled, that will always be the case.

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Ohh yes of course, that’s true, well I think we will continue to play the way we are playing realistic air battles. I think there clear winners are the Rafael, and now the new AIM-120 missile carriers. SU-30 can hold its own but that is a long shot in air realistic.

To be fair with you after testing the new Aim-120C’s I haven’t seen much of a difference compared to the 120A/B, the Su-30 gameplay will still bring me more enjoyment :)

(ofc we’re talking about the Dev server Aim-120C, which might still change before release)

Because R-37M isnt in the game…
And if you get the R-37M then the Typhoon will have Meteor.

Well that is how it goes, I wonder how does Meteor perform has it been used in irl?

Do you play simulator mode?

Not really, Air RB mainly

Me too, but who knows in the future might try it out.

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I dont think it’s been used in combat.

Do you have the Rafael in game?

Typhoon the weaker relative