Challenger 3 MBT - Technical Data and Discussion

Like I said, I am also an idiot but I can admit I am one. I also never really watched Star Trek or Star Wars so I don’t really know much besides the really big memes like Storm Trooper aim

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https://x.com/jeromestarkey/status/2029605470776832151?s=20

New Challenger 3 video teaser from the Sun, it appears they’ll be releasing an “up close and personal” video with the tank, March 7th (this Saturday) on the Sun’s youtube channel

edit: as is tradition with UK defence, the video got delayed by a few days

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more challenger 3 variants for the uk now trust

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The best part is that the most over qualified person from the Sun actually did the videos and showing, just like the CR2 in Ukraine

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good i saw that question mark in the thumbnail,
gonna give it a look

some nice footage.

Just find it hilarious, the reporter trying to glaze rifled cannons how it made them more accurate.
And how the main reason they changed was to switch to the nato standard.
Just for everyone else to say its superior accuracy is actualy making problems in the test and that its a big upgrade xD

Why are they blurring the LWS recievers?
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From this, we already know what they look like

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Did he say rifled cannons are more accurate I dont remember that

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I honestly have no clue, they blurred out a variety of stuff that is already public elsewhere

he did say it near the beginning of the video

rifled in the modern age just has no real benefit

only reason CR2 had it in the first place was commonality with CR1, but then CR1 was retired within like 5 years of CR2 entering service, so it just became a liability

“Challenger 2 had a rifled gun, it was rifled cause spinning the ammunition made it more accurate, but they put a smoothbore cannon on the challenger 3 cause that made it nato standard and gives it access to high tech ammunition being developed”
High tech ammunition strictly speaken could always have been developed for rifled as well

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Technically hes not entirely wrong as HESH dosen’t really work out of a smoothbore gun unless you add fins, it is more accurate for certain ammunition types

At the end of the day he’s just a presenter and not affiliated with RBSL or the British Gvt. so I don’t really see the point in worrying about his statement

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lets be honest, HESH is not being used either anymore, its no real argument for rifled either

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Hence why he said “made” it more accurate rather than “makes” it more accurate

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it absolutely would

just like every everything else to come out of a smoothbore tank gun?

yeah, no bunkers to deal with, or light armour that HE can’t just deal with, or medium/heavy armour, where HESH would not work due to spall liners and composites, and and on top it has very little frag

the Swedes realised this ages ago all the way back with the L7, HESH was just too expensive with far far too little benefit to justify

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Im not gonna continue the rifling debate, the new gun is an upgrade, I don’t disagree

It’s a shame they were quite vague about the engine upgrades and new armour as well, I don’t think he even mentioned the modular armour once

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this better be 1500hp the enhanced cooling leads me to believe it is because the cv12-6a is 1500hp capable but the cr2 cooling systems weren’t good enough

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CR3 almost certainly has 1500hp, as we know the main reason for CR2 not getting upgraded and the CV12 in general was that it needs much more cooling, as CV12 is a rather hot engine

having both Improved power pack and cooling in the same sentence, makes me think 1500hp is almost guaranteed

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The CV12 and the TN54E transmission have always been 1500hp capable, but the cooling issues reduced reliability to an unacceptable level so they chose to downrate the engine

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