Challenger 2 needs to be brought to developers attention

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Having spaded the entire UK ground TT I can give my expert opinion on this and say:
Rooikat 105 is essentially the only useful vehicle for SA. Everything else is complete filler, useless, overtiered or has a special “Hemorage Silver Lions” ability for your account lmao

Half of them are just Centurions at BRs where Centurions are laughable
ZA-35 is okay, but not as Anti Air, more like a bad IFV
Ratel 20 isn’t too bad but that’s just because of the ATGM
SARC MkIVa is okay but…it’s 1.3 BR. The bar is low.

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:( Gunner NVD, TwS and No radar lock warning are great things it offers at the same br

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Maybe… though a SPAA for Br 6 or 7 or 9 would have been 100x better and more useful

I didn’t hate it, but Chieftain Marksman has way more style points and hits armor harder

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Yea, Crusader AA mk 2 is what followed me up to a Falcon, and 9 br IR slinger would be cool

Stormer AD…


Funnily enough it was passed for consideration!

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What missile it has?

Javelin or Blowpipe (MCLOS / SACLOS)

Stinger (IR)

Also comes with either a 20mm rotary cannon or a 30mm rotary

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Going back to it the Radar is in the 100% erect position. It would be nice if we could bring it down to half-mast.
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Crusader AA Mk1 is my most played tank last I looked. That was my main spaa until the falcon and still is

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my 75% wr in the Olifant mk2 says otherwise lmao the thing is a hidden gem

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Oh the Mk.2 is honestly not bad, yeah. Great thermals for its BR but armor is lacking big time. Still an okay pick for a lineup

yeah its pretty good, I dont like the lack of maneuverability but I can work with it.

Eland-90 is used on occasion, for me though I barely used it because the heatfs was just atrocious
G6 was fun but everyone sort of knows it’s over BR’d, especially now with the M109 that is better in literally every single way and is a lower BR.
Sarc line is alright
Concept 3 is pretty good at 4.7
Rooikat MTTD was okayish.
Ratels are interesting but just too bad to be useful, mostly due to size.
Olifants suck.
Never used the TTD because it looked to me like it has no armor at all, even in the cheeks it takes a lucky shot to bounce, plus you’re in near universal uptiers. But in retrospect it’s probably okay due to the speed it has.
I think the SA tree was a neat idea, especially because from what I have read in the past they wanted less copy paste tanks, that’s out of the window, but yeah it’s been a meh bag at best.

We can see how that turned out SA is the only Sub-tree without Copy and paste. Over 90% of Finland is C&P and Hungry gave Italy Soviet C&P.

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Oh how wrong this is…
Finland original models: T-72M1, 2A4, 2A6, T-34-85, BT-42, Vickers MkE, T-55M, Fokker DXXI3, B239, VL Pyorremyrsky, Fokker DXXI, Morko Morane, CV30FIN. 13

Copy-paste: T-28, T-34, Pz IV, Charioteer, T-54. Hurricane, BF-109G2, BF-109G6, Vampire, Mig-21Bis, Comet, PT-76. 12

Undecided: J34.

13 unique, 12 copy paste, 1 undecided [has a different engine & can use AIM-9Bs].
At worst that’s 50:50.

Also SA has Eland as copy-paste.

SA still have some unique vehicle

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2 leopards that will belong in other trees when added(like wherever the Dutch go). A British tank that is also in the Soviet tree(Vickers MkE). T-34-85 is in 3 tech trees. the only true unique tank to Finland is the BT-42 as the other unique ones don’t even have weapons or engine changed. and neither Hungry nor SA have brought in Air vehicles at this point.

It’s not a Dutch 2A6, it’s a Finnish one. Same with the 2A4.
No, Vickers MkE isn’t in the Soviet tree, the T-26 is a Soviet made derivative.
T-34-85 with that hull only exists in Sweden’s tech tree.

Eland is copy-paste still BTW.