Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 2)

How does the CR3 get better survivability? It’s worse than all the 11.7 CR2s with their add on armour, spall liners and inert turret ammo with a bigger frontal turret weak spot

My first impressions of the CR3 are it would be better if it had no ammo in the turret at all, it’s basically just bomb sat behind the loader

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Doesn’t matter, you will have a propellant wall in front of the engine unless you take <5 rounds or smthin

I usually take around 18 which empties the front of the tank of any ammo, can be useful in all the city maps.

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no hull ammo + no basket leads to some rounds doing absolutely nothing when shot in the side of the hull or lfp and your spall liners on the normal CR2 are all in the turret anyway where people mostly dont bother shooting and if they do then there goes your breech anyway

I’d love to see a clip of something penning the LFP and doing nothing, I’m finding that very hard to believe

So the CR3 is most survivable when people aren’t shooting at the turret? You’re in a sticky situation if you’re that exposed in a Challenger

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most it usually gets is driver engine but your gun will most of the time still be up

its like the 2nd best chally for close quarter cause DM53 and decent hull survivability

im not saying its the best tank ever but i really enjoy playing it personally

Fair enough

I’ll be honest I haven’t spaded, or even got DM53 on it yet… I’m hoping the better round makes a difference, I’ve been using the L27A1 for the past 200 or so battles

And maybe just save it for close quarters maps, because right now it is not working at all playing it like my other challengers

The CR3TD has pretty bad survivability as it was just a tech demo so they never added half of the stuff it needed to be a combat vehicle

  • No blowout panels
  • No turret spall liners
  • No mantlet armour

The real CR3 fixes all of these, apart from the fact gaijin will still probably give the CR3 bad mantlet armour

You can see the blowout panels on the real CR3 prototypes here, the CR3TD lacks those completely

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So. C&P of the damage model from the CR3TD for the CR3P4 then?

Yep!

Gaijins thoughts > Photographic proof

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2E has worse mobility due to how much speed it loses.
Worse round.
Worse reload unless aced + ready tack.

Better magnification, survivability is also piss as they have random bag charges all over the tank.

Disagree all you want bud doesn’t make you right , the leclerc overall has better performance than CR2 evsn after latest nerfs to it.

Like i said i played 5 games in the Cr3TD and binned it.
Also 2E is spaded, not hard to spade tanks lol.

Why would we listen to you? You’re talking about tanks you don’t even have never mind spade.

Ive fired through the LFP and wiped the cr3 plenty times.
You cab like a tank without it being good man…

Edit also talking about perfromance when yoir bottom 30 percent of the teams not a good look.

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All according to plan.

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similar mobility i said not better

a worse round by 10MM seriously

you do realise the challengers ammo doesnt go off 100% of the time right? ive had more than enough shots phase through my ammo

interesting

ive survived plenty of lfp shots in the challenger 3 aswell it goes both ways

yeah i have a fustration issue that leads to 1 death leaving im trying to do better

rude

True culture indeed (I say as someone who lives near a goth hub in the UK)

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based

How do you get that flag?? the one on the challenger is different

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He edited the files lol

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So they’re a different texture? interesting.

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Yup

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It’s a file lol, I just went in and edited it.

Once I finish I can send it over. I changed the Albums, posters, and the Flag on the tank.

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Chally 2 was so fun I bought another and a plane with a big forehead to go with.

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Worse is worse.
In a comparisson that’s how things work.

That 10mm can and will make a difference with spall generation.

Anecdotal evidence means nothing.
The general consensus, is the ammo detonates quite a lot.

Exactly so see my point of your experience isn’t Exactly evidence. Especially considering the fact that quite a majority of people are of the same mindset with the Cr3TD.

i absolutely knew it, so thats why you’re actual game effect is piss all.

Says the man with a barely 30 percent win rate, who told.me that i don’t know how to play?

I know fine well how to use CR2s btw

Just to further reinforce I know how to use the CR2s and such.


That’s from today alone.
as well as me chieftains from yesterday