Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 2)

According to what? I havent seen this anywhere really

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Me (And the stats from the Vickers Mk 7 which is what the Chally 2 is based upon)

And me (I know much. I have Dewald Venter on my side and the whole of the internet’s worth of documents)

no? (atleast the vertical traverse)
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CR1 tested the SSGCE that got used on CR2 too (SSPA section)

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pretty sure there is also a video of a CR2 deployed in oman showing part of its vertical traverse and its not “22 dg/s” fast

found it
also horizontal should be at about 36º dg/s from most reports (and also in this video)

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Could any of these be used to report the turret traverse being too slow?

honestly no clue, dont think gaijin uses videos as source n the documents dont really cite cr2 directly

Not for anything where time plays a factor at least / where it actually matters (I ve got an accepted report regarding harrier landing gear speed using videos, but its not really a balancing issue) . Some chinese players iirc sped up a video to get a tank buffed and after that they dont trust them.

The source not being a random video might carry more weight, but it would be at best counted as a secondary source in all likelyhood and would need other sources to back it up

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What the rear side plate here? Is it just an armoured plate attached? Its in line with the charge bag storage bins i think right?

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is that not VARMA? or whatever upgrade / desendant that may/may not have been used? composite screen thingy

So Gaijin still don’t accept the fact that Challenger 2 have LFP spall liners?
Bruh.

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I thought we were waiting on sources for side spall before bug reporting the lfp? Or have they actually just denied it lol. Love how only germany and russia get competently modelled spall liner as if all other countries only ever thought of putting it behind the MOST armour sections of the armour…

Is there any confirmation that this is a spall liner? I have a number of doubts:

  1. The Challenger 1 uses an anti-noise/anti-vibration liner.
  2. Object-477 published fragments of Challenger 2 technical specifications some time ago and, as far as I recall, mentioned that the liner was actually a spall liner.

Overall, I couldn’t find any information that would suggest that the Ch2 has a spall liner.

GOOD NEWS!

Challenger 2’s gearbox now appears to be correct

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/d1OZ86M9Mkau

Old:
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New:
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These match my report

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Holy moly. I can add that to the dev post

Great!

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The Challenger 2 is listed as an exemplar vehicle in the spall liner section on Permali’s website, who specialise in producing them for the British Army. The vehicle almost certainly features a spall liner, the anti radiation liner on the Challenger 1 is a different material.

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Frankly, it’s not just the spall liner. The Challenger 2 may also feature ballistic armour.
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Not a single source specifically about the Challenger 2, as far as I remember, has mentioned spall liner.


For example, Haynes’s book doesn’t mention a word about this in the section on survivability. How could anyone forget it?

I haven’t read all the sources, of course, but it seems to me there are no direct references.

Looks like it’s getting a slightly better early acceleration which will slow down a bit faster. And, if they haven’t changed anything else, it might have a very slightly better top speed ?