Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 2)

[Kobes-Kamov]

Did it get accepted?

[oppsijustkilledu-psn]

I don’t remember I forget things now I’m getting old 😭😂

[Kobes-Kamov]

All good lol, I couldn’t find yours but it seems that Fireball made a similar report

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/aIZAZitXNYnx

2 years and left to rot, classic gaijin

[PhazotronX-live]

The hull side armor is probably similar to the abrams hull side armor with the additional plate being the same thickness as the base hull side plate.

[CamVPro]

Possible to create a new thread of all the bug reports that have been accepted / ignored, listed in 1 clear coherent list so that it gets some attention?

[FlyingOstridge]

Already made by @Morvran. I can’t seem to find it though.

[Kobes-Kamov]

Yeah the link dosen’t seem to work anymore, I think it got removed? I dont know why

[Master_Teaz]

@CamVPro

Possible to create a new thread of all the bug reports that have been accepted / ignored, listed in 1 clear coherent list so that it gets some attention?

@Morvran_

Bug List

Challenger 2 Bugs:

Mobility related

• Challenger 2 (All) (And Challenger 1s): Missing Engine Horsepower

Armour/survivability

Base Armour

• Challenger 2 (All): Incorrect Mantlet armour/Protection (Dev Post)
• Challenger 2 (All) - Missing Spall liners
• Challenger 2 (all) - missing spall liners, version 2
• Challenger 2 (All): Missing composite armour in turret roof
• Challenger 2 (All): Turret points cause shells to ignore rest of armour
• Challenger 2 (All) - Turret bustle should be RHA instead of CHA
• Challenger 2 (All): UFP Spall liner should be split
• Challenger 2 (All): Gun Mantlet, Breech and gun are too high
• Challenger 2 (All): Vulnerable to low calibre overpressure on driver

External Armour

• Challenger 2 (All): Incorrect additional side armour composition (Partial fix)
• Challenger 2 (2F & 2E): UFP add-ons missing thickness and effectiveness
• Challenger 2 (2F): Side external armour doesnt work
• Challenger 2 (2F, TES & OES): Incorrect external armour
• Challenger 2: side blocks should be 200mm thick
• Challenger 2 (BN) UFP Model Incorrect
• Challenger 2 (2F & TES): Side armour protection levels
• Challenger 2 (All): Missing spall liner on the LFP
• Challenger 2 (TES & OES): SPRO-HMT CE resistance
• Challenger 2 (TES & OES): Backing Plate
• Challenger 2 (TES & OES): Applique Armor shouldn’t detonate to KE
• Challenger 2 (TES & OES): Baseplate configuration is backwards
• Challenger 2 (TES & OES): Applique Armour name and type
• Challenger 2: ASPRO-HMT incorrect protection
  - Challenger 2 Dorchester 2E Addon Model inaccuracies
  (Community Bug Reporting System )
• Challenger Series ROMOR ERA Model Inaccuracy

Internal Armour

• Challenger 2 (All): Turret basket ammunition bin unprotected
• Challenger 2 (TES): Internal armour ignored by shells
• Challenger 2 (All): Turnnion pins missing
• Challenger 2 (All): Missing armour around gun mantlet
• Challenger 2 (All): Missing internal bulkheads
• Challenger 2 (All): Aiming Drives clip through spall liners

Other components

• Challenger 2 (All): Incorrect ammo storage placement (Dev Post)
  (Additional Information)
• Incorrect Gunner and Commander position
• Challenger 2 (All) Ammo Position issues
• Challenger 2 (OES): Incorrect ammo bin thickness
• Challenger 2 TES/OES, 8 APFSDS shells too many

APS

• Challenger 2 (BN): Iron FIst missing soft kill function
• Challenger 2 (BN): Iron fist Hard-Kill APS Issue
• Challenger 2 (BN): Iron Fist Launcher randomly spinning

Weapon Systems

Optics/Thermals

• Challenger 2 (All): Commander should have thermals when aiming

Main gun

• Challenger 2 (All): L27A1 CHARM 3 penetration too low
• Challenger 2 (All): Incorrect ready rack
• Challenger 2 (All): Ammo Stowage and first stage incorrect

Other armament

• 12.7mm HMG (AKA 50.Cal) or 40mm GL for all Chally 2

Miscellaneous

• Challenger 2 (TES/OES): Armour addons should be removable
• Challenger 2(All): Missing meteo-sesnor mast
• Challenger 2 (All): Model issue, Missing wash plate
• Challenger 2 (All): Wrong X-Ray of the Challenger 2E engine Compartment
• Challenger 2 (OES): Incorrect Armour skirt plate texture
• Challenger 2 (TES & OES): Rear Grille Armour damaged model issue
• Challenger 2 0 Missing Frontal Combat Identification Panels
• Challenger 2(All): Wheels Varying Sizes

Challenger 2 Suggestions;

• Camo Netting
• Challenger 2 (TES): SolarShield for TES
• Challenger 2 (2, 2F, TES, OES): Dozer Blades

Slightly outdated, I’ve but here’s the main bit and a few others that need to be added

1 Example being the Challenger 2s having the Wrong Gear Ratios

[CamVPro]

Salute you for your work

[SoundWave777]

Awesome on the rounds performance, so the only reason they don’t make it better is because they intend for bias.

It get’s old playing with machines that don’t work correctly. Even the TES and OES NERA side armour behaves like ERA that doesn’t work instead of NERA. Why can’t we have anything fun?